Bob McCue

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Contents 1 Self-contradiction 2 FAIR Wiki articles 3 Reviews of author's work(s) 4 Further reading

At the end of 2002 a member in Canada, Bob McCue, decided to leave the Church after a self-described "spiritual journey."

Few of McCue's attacks are original; they are addressed by topic in the wiki.

Self-contradiction

Addresses specific quotes which contradict earlier statements.

Main Article: Quotes and Responses

FAIR Wiki articles

These wiki articles address claims made by this author.

• Contradictory claims
• Anti-Mormon
• Anti-depressant use in Utah
• Attitude to non-members
  • Primary sources
• Church over family?
• Education—does it threaten faith?
• Lying_for_the_Lord?
• Marriage, duties in  ^{[needs work]}
• Mothers, duties toward
• Wives, duties toward
• Salvation of non-members
• Wayward family members, attitude toward
• Book of Mormon historicity
• The Spaulding manuscript
• View of the Hebrews ^{[needs work]}
• Wordprint studies
• Book of Mormon witnesses (Summary page)
• Censorship_and_revision_of_LDS_history
• Burning in the bosom
• Testimony and doubt reconciliation

Plural marriage wiki links

• Book of Mormon Condemns Polygamy
• 1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy
• In Sacred Loneliness Book Reviews
• Plural marriage is not Biblical?
• Brigham Young: hiding history?
• Early Christians on Plural Marriage
• Emma Smith
• Joseph Smith
  • Polyandry
    • Book chapter
  • Children by plural marriage?
    • Book chapter
  • Polygamy
  • Polygamous marriages to young women
    • Book chapter
• Lustful motives?
• The Law of Adoption
• The Manifesto
  • The Manifesto the result of political pressure
  • Post-Manifesto plural marriages
• The modern Church and polygamous groups
• Purpose of plural marriage
• Required for exaltation?
  • Brigham Young in JD 11, page 269
  • First Presidency Counselor on the Polygamy / Exaltation Question
• Spiritual manifestations to plural wives and families

Joseph Smith, Jr. wiki articles

• Did Joseph boast of keeping the Church intact?
• Healings and miracles?
• Holy Ghost, Joseph Smith is the
• Kinderhook Plates
• King of the world, anointed
• Lucy Mack Smith and Joseph's "amusing recitals" of Ancient Americans
• Martyr?
  • Martyrdom in Christian history
• Masonic cry of distress
• Money digging/treasure seeking
  • Joseph Smith's "treasure hunting" trip to Salem
• Moonmen
• Occult activities or "magick"?
• Personal failings
• Political activities
• Seer stones, use of
• Status in LDS belief
• Teller of tall tales?

Joseph Smith and legal issues wiki articles

• Joseph Smith and legal trials
  • 1826 trial
• Kirtland Safety Society
• Nauvoo city charter
  • Habeas corpus
• Nauvoo Expositor
  • Nauvoo Expositor Full Text

Prophecy wiki articles

• Joseph Smith prophecies
  • Can't be killed within 5 years of August 1843
  • David Patten to serve a mission?
  • Independence temple to be built "in this generation"
  • Prophetic inerrancy?
  • Prophetic test in Deuteronomy
  • Second Coming in 1890 (56 years)
• Official doctrine: what is it?
• LDS prophets don't prophesy?
• Revelation after Joseph Smith

First Vision wiki articles

• First Vision accounts (Summary and index page)
• Religious revivals in 1820
• Conflation of 1824-25 revival?
• Early Smith family history
• Contradiction about knowing all churches were wrong
• Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in 1823
• Joseph Smith joined other churches
• 1830 statement about seeing "God"
• First Vision fabricated to give "Godly authority"
• D&C 84 says God not seen without priesthood?
• No reference to First Vision in 1830s publications?
• 1838 account modified to offset leadership crisis?
• First Vision story became more detailed and colorful after 1832?
• The "Angels" of the 1835 account
• Controversy Concerning D&C 121:28
• The Father: A Spirit vs. Embodied
• Lack of contemporary Father and Son vision until 1838?
• No mention in non-LDS literature before 1843?
• Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877
  • Longer version (timeline)

Claims about the 1832 First Vision account

• Only one Personage appears in the 1832 account
• 1832 account doesn't mention new dispensation
• 1832 account doesn't mention a revival
• 1832 account doesn't forbid joining a church
• 1832 account doesn't mention persecution
• Motivation in 1832 account is different
• Different age provided in the 1832 text
• Struggle with Satan not in the 1832 account
• 1832 says wicked will be destroyed but 1838 doesn't
• 1832 vision set in heaven or on earth?
• Eternal life regardless of church affiliation in 1832 text?

Claims about other members and the First Vision

• George Q. Cannon referred to "angels"
• Oliver Cowdery not aware of First Vision in 1834-35
• Orson Hyde referred to "angels"
• Andrew Jenson called personage an "angel"
• Heber C. Kimball denied the Father appeared
• Orson Pratt confused about "angel" or Father-Son
• Parley P. Pratt only said that "God" appeared
• George A. Smith said First Vision was an "angel"
• Lucy Mack Smith claimed "angel"?
• William Smith said First Vision was an "angel"?
• Orson Spencer said an "angel" was the first manifestation?
• John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision
• Wilford Woodruff spoke of an "angel"
• Brigham Young said the Lord didn't appear
• Brigham Young never mentioned the First Vision

Joseph Smith other visionary issues wiki articles

• Joseph Smith's early conception of God
• Moroni as an angel of Satan
• Did Nephi or Moroni appear in 1823?
• Personages who appeared to Joseph Smith
• Swedenborg and three degrees of glory

God wiki articles

• The Father: A Spirit vs. Embodied
• Corporeality of God
• Unchanging Nature of God
• Creatio ex nihilo
  • Creation in Colossians 1:16
• Downplaying the King Follett discourse?
• Elohim and Jehovah
• Foreknowledge of God
• God is a Spirit
• Godhead and the Trinity
• Heavenly Mother?
• Infinite regress of Gods?
• Kolob
• "No God beside me" - (includes Isaiah 43-46 issues)
• No man has seen God
• Polytheism - Are Mormons polytheists?
• Spirit bodies for humans and 1 Cor 15
• Theosis/deification of man

Video

Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories, Matthew Brown, 2006 FAIR Conference

• Part 1: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 2: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 3: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 4: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 5: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 5: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories

Reviews of author's work(s)

• Blake T. Ostler, "Spiritual Experiences as the Basis for Belief and Commitment," (2007 FAIR Conference Presentation). FAIR link

Further reading

Specific Authors and Works

• Richard Abanes
  • One Nation Under Gods
  • Becoming Gods: A Closer Look at 21st-Century Mormonism — (Index of claims)
• Will Bagley
  • Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows
• Fawn McKay Brodie
  • No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith — (Index of claims)
• Todd Compton
  • In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith
• Ed Decker
  • The God Makers (film)
• Dan Erickson
• Norman L. Geisler
  • "Scripture," in The Counterfeit Gospel of Mormonism
• Ronald V. Huggins
  • From Captain Kidd's Treasure Ghost to the Angel Moroni: Changing Dramatis Personae in Early Mormonism
• Charles Larson
  • By His Own Hand upon Papyrus: A New Look at the Joseph Smith Papyri
• Bob McCue
• McKeever & Johnson
  • Mormonism 101
• Christopher Marc Nemelka
• Grant Palmer
  • An Insider's View of Mormon Origins — (Index of claims)
• D. Michael Quinn
  • Early Mormonism and the Magic World View
  • "LDS Church Authority and New Plural Marriages, 1890–1904"
  • The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power
  • The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power
  • Same-Sex Dynamics Among Nineteenth-Century Americans: A Mormon Example
• Carol Whang Shutter
  • September Dawn (film)
• Simon G. Southerton
  • Losing a Lost Tribe: Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church — (Index of claims)
• Jerald and Sandra Tanner
  • The Changing World of Mormonism — (Index of claims)
  • Mormonism: Shadow or Reality?