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==Criticism==
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*If every President of the Church is a prophet, seer, and revelator, why have so few revelations after Joseph Smith been added to the Doctrine and Covenants?
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*Revelations used to be printed in Church periodicals such as the ''Times and Seasons'' and the ''Evening and Morning Star''. Why are revelations no longer published on an ongoing basis?  
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===Source(s) of the criticism===
 
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==Response==
 
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The Doctrine and Covenants contains foundations revelations establishing core doctrines, the organization of the Church and the priesthood, and the manner of ordinances. Prophets after Joseph Smith have and continue to receive revelation, but only in a few circumstances have these revelations been foundational enough to necessitate them being added to the LDS canon.
 
  
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This pattern is reflected in the Bible as well. Moses, the founding prophet of that dispensation, produced five books of scripture, which were the basis of religious instruction for the next several centuries. The books that followed Moses for the next couple centuries were mostly historical accounts (Joshua, Judges, Ruth), with only occasional revelations recorded by subsequent prophets.
 
  
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Joseph himself stopped receiving so many revelations as the government of the church was established.  At this point in his life he said that the Lord should not be petitioned for every little thing, especially if revelations on the same subject had already been given or information "about the things the knowledge of which men ought to obtain in all cencerity before God for themselves."  After the 12 apostles were organized the number of revelations that Joseph received decreased dramatically.  Around 1835 Joseph stopped receiving revelations as people remember him to have done, nine years before his martyrdom.{{ref|bushman1}}
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===Revelation continues in the Church===
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[[es:El Mormonismo y los profetas/Revelación después de que José Smith]]
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Elder John A. Widtsoe explained that we still have revelation in the Church, even if it is not being added to the Doctrine and Covenants:
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:There is...need of continuous revelation. However, we must understand that there are two classes of revelation given by God to man. The first deals with the structure and content of the plan of salvation. Once given it does not need to be given again. Adam received it. *** Christ gave the same revelation to man in His dispensation. So did Joseph Smith in his dispensation. The foundation, or platform, once given does not need to be given again unless men forget the truth.
 
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:Then there are revelations that fit the changes in our lives, meet our new needs, help us overcome unforeseen conditions—revelations for our daily guidance.
 
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:This great country, the United States of America, has found itself in a great depression. We have the Gospel. What did the Lord do? He spoke to his Prophet, and we have what is known as the Welfare Program. It is the application of the eternal principles of the Gospel to present day needs. It is as revelation. We have that type of revelation continuously.
 
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:So, when people say: "We ought to have revelation now as we did in the day of Joseph," we must answer, "Open your eyes; we do have revelation every day; such as we need from day to day."
 
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:Revelations have been given to Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, Joseph F. Smith and President Heber J. Grant. Every one of them has had revelation whereby the Church has been guided.{{ref|widtsoe1}}
 
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# {{note|bushman1}} {{RSR1 | start=257}}
 
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# {{note|widtsoe1}} John A. Widtsoe, "Modern Revelation and Modern Questions," ''The Deseret News'', Church Section, 28 January 1939, 6.
 
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==Further reading==
 
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===FAIR wiki articles===
 
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*[[Open canon vs. closed canon]]
 
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{{ProphecyWiki}}
 
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===FAIR web site===
 
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===External links===
 
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*{{Ensign1|author=Spencer W. Kimball|article=''Gospel Forum'': The official revelations to the Church apparently ended with the 1890 Manifesto issued by President Wilford Woodruff. What is the position of the Church on continuous revelation?”|date=February 1971|start=20}}{{link|url=http://beta.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b12f9d18fae655bb69095bd3e44916a0/?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=12738e3c2344b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1}} <small>Note that this article pre-dates the 1978 revelation on priesthood to President Kimball.</small>
 
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Latest revision as of 00:04, 31 May 2024


Revelation after Joseph Smith

Summary: If every President of the Church is a prophet, seer, and revelator, why have so few revelations after Joseph Smith been added to the Doctrine and Covenants? Revelations used to be printed in Church periodicals such as the Times and Seasons and the Evening and Morning Star. Why are revelations no longer published on an ongoing basis?


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  1. REDIRECT Modern prophets and prophecy
  2. REDIRECT Apostles as personal witnesses of Christ

Divine manifestations since the time of Joseph Smith


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  1. REDIRECT Fulfillment of prophecy

Blessings given by Oliver Cowdery


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Brigham Young ordination blessing

Summary: FairMormon has found no criticism about the blessing given to Brigham Young upon his ordination as an apostle. His blessing is referenced by at least one other blessing, however, and so is included here for reference.


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Joseph F. Smith at the Reed Smoot hearings

Summary: It is claimed that at the Smoot hearings, Joseph F. Smith said that he never received revelation.


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