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==Criticism==
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A brief explanation of the criticism.
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===Source(s) of the Criticism===
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<small>Video published by the Church History Department.</small>
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==Response==
 
  
===Eclipse of seer-stone use===
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{{Critical sources box:Joseph Smith/Seer stones/CriticalSources}}
 
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The Urim and Thummim were the means of receiving most of the formal  revelations  until June 1829.  That was the time of completing the Book of Mormon, which was translated through the Urim and Thummim and also the seer stone. But no type of stone is involved in receiving  revelation  or translation after that. Orson Pratt watched the New Testament revision and wondered why the Book of  Mormon  procedure was not continued:
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::While this thought passed through the speaker's mind, Joseph, as if he read his thoughts, looked up and explained that the Lord gave him the Urim and Thummim when he was inexperienced in the Spirit of inspiration. But now he had advanced so far that he understood the operations of that Spirit and did not need the assistance of that instrument.{{ref|prattuandt}}
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#{{note|prattuandt}} {{MatureJS}} ; citing Orson Pratt, "Discourse at Brigham City," 27 June 1874, Ogden (Utah) Junction, cited in {{MS|author=?|article=??|vol=36|date=11 August 1874|start=498|end=499}}
 
 
 
==Conclusion==
 
 
 
A summary of the argument against the criticism.
 
 
 
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Latest revision as of 13:59, 30 April 2024


Joseph Smith's seer stone and the Urim and Thummim

Summary: Joseph Smith used the Nephite Interpreters as well as his own seer stone (both of which were later referred to as "Urim and Thummim") to translate the Book of Mormon.

Video published by the Church History Department.

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  1. REDIRECTJoseph Smith and folk magic or the occult#How did Joseph Smith use his seer stones as a youth?

The "Urim and Thummim" used by Joseph Smith to translate the "gold plates"


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Joseph Smith used the same "rock in hat" seer stone for translating that he used for "money digging"


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Source(s) of the criticism
Critical sources
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