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==Criticism==
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The Urim and Thummim were the means of receiving most of the formal  revelations  until June 1829.  That was the time of completing the Book of Mormon, which was translated through the Urim and Thummim and also the seer stone. But no type of stone is involved in receiving  revelation  or translation after that. Orson Pratt watched the New Testament revision and wondered why the Book of  Mormon  procedure was not continued:
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::While this thought passed through the speaker's mind, Joseph, as if he read his thoughts, looked up and explained that the Lord gave him the Urim and Thummim when he was inexperienced in the Spirit of inspiration. But now he had advanced so far that he understood the operations of that Spirit and did not need the assistance of that instrument.{{ref|prattuandt}}
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The idea of sacred stones acting as revelators to believers is present in the Bible, and Joseph Smith embraced a decidedly "non-magical" and "pro-religious" view of them:
 
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:In Revelation,  John  incorporates past religious symbols into his message. Thus the most internally consistent interpretation of the "white stone" combines with the book's assurance that the faithful will become "kings and priests" to the Most High  (Rev. 1:6).  These eternal priests will be in tune with God's will, like the High Priest with the breastplate of shining stones and the Urim. In Hebrew that term means "light," corresponding to the "white" stone of John's Revelation. This correlation should be obvious, but Joseph Smith is virtually alone in confidence that  John  sees the redeemed as full High Priests: "Then the white stone mentioned in  Rev. 2:17  is the Urim and Thummim, whereby all things pertaining to a higher order of kingdoms, even all kingdoms, will be made know."  As for genuine religion, Joseph Smith perceived the stone of John's vision not as a stone of chance but as a conduit of enlightenment and a reward of worthiness of character.{{ref|revelationjohn1}}
 
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#{{note|prattuandt}} {{MatureJS}} ; citing Orson Pratt, "Discourse at Brigham City," 27 June 1874, Ogden (Utah) Junction, cited in {{MS|author=Orson Pratt|article=Two Days´ Meeting at Brigham City|vol=36|date=11 August 1874|start=498|end=499}}
 
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{{Dialogue|author=Richard Van Wagoner and Steven Walker|aritcle=Joseph Smith: 'The Gift of Seeing|vol=15|num=2|start=?|end=??}} {{link|url=http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/dialogue&CISOPTR=16574&REC=16}}
 
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Latest revision as of 13:59, 30 April 2024


Joseph Smith's seer stone and the Urim and Thummim

Summary: Joseph Smith used the Nephite Interpreters as well as his own seer stone (both of which were later referred to as "Urim and Thummim") to translate the Book of Mormon.

Video published by the Church History Department.

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  1. REDIRECTJoseph Smith and folk magic or the occult#How did Joseph Smith use his seer stones as a youth?

The "Urim and Thummim" used by Joseph Smith to translate the "gold plates"


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Joseph Smith used the same "rock in hat" seer stone for translating that he used for "money digging"


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