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+ | *The critics conclude that the Book of Abraham cannot be scripture, and that as a result, the Church is false as well because it canonized it. | ||
*The critics conclude that no LDS Egyptologist is as qualified to comment on the Book of Abraham as non-LDS Egyptologists, simply because they are LDS. (This is an example of "ad hominem fallacy"—An assertion that somebody's claim is wrong because of something about the person making the claim. In this case, if an Egyptologist is LDS, they must be unqualified to comment on the Book of Abraham papyri) | *The critics conclude that no LDS Egyptologist is as qualified to comment on the Book of Abraham as non-LDS Egyptologists, simply because they are LDS. (This is an example of "ad hominem fallacy"—An assertion that somebody's claim is wrong because of something about the person making the claim. In this case, if an Egyptologist is LDS, they must be unqualified to comment on the Book of Abraham papyri) | ||
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− | *It is no more disturbing than assigning obvious female figures male names. | + | *It is no more disturbing than assigning obvious female figures male names. Joseph was obviously using the facsimiles to illustrate a concept, and he used the existing figures. |
+ | *"The Church" didn't erase anything—the facsimiles were transferred to woodcuts in order to print them in the newspaper. A number of additions and changes were made in order to make them more presentable, including filling in missing sections with characters and figures taken from elsewhere in the facsimiles. | ||
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|claim=Our comment: It should be noted that not all nonMormon Egyptologists agree that there should be a second bird in the middle of the facsimile. Dr. Lanny Bell supports the idea that the figure on the table is indeed holding up two hands. However, no nonMormon Egyptologists believe Anubis (the priest as identified by Joseph) was holding a knife or that he had a man's head instead of a Jackal's head. | |claim=Our comment: It should be noted that not all nonMormon Egyptologists agree that there should be a second bird in the middle of the facsimile. Dr. Lanny Bell supports the idea that the figure on the table is indeed holding up two hands. However, no nonMormon Egyptologists believe Anubis (the priest as identified by Joseph) was holding a knife or that he had a man's head instead of a Jackal's head. | ||
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+ | *Joseph identified the figure portrayed as holding the knife as a priest—in this he was correct. The head of the priest may have indeed been the jackal head associated with Anubis, but it doesn't really change anything. When the facsimile was prepared for publication in the newspaper, missing sections were filled in by the individual who created the woodcuts. | ||
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|subject=Why would Abraham lie? | |subject=Why would Abraham lie? | ||
− | |summary= | + | |summary=Critics ask, "Why God would encourage Abraham & Sarah to lie in Abraham 2:24? Isn't lying a sin according to the 10 commandments? Why did God tell Abraham and Sarah to lie when 2 Nephi condemns liars to hell?" |
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− | |claim=Critic's Point: If it wasn't for the Book of Abraham, it is possible that two of the most controversial and objectionable doctrines of the LDS church (polygamy | + | |claim=Critic's Point: If it wasn't for the Book of Abraham, it is possible that two of the most controversial and objectionable doctrines of the LDS church (polygamy and denying the priesthood to blacks) would not have happened or have been as prominent as they were. Polygamy was already in practice by Joseph but perhaps it would not have been so prominently practiced by the members if there was no Book of Abraham to support the practice. It's also interesting to note that eventually the LDS church abandoned both of these doctrines, which were at one point taught as eternal principles. |
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*By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus by Charles M. Larson p 20-22. | *By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus by Charles M. Larson p 20-22. | ||
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+ | *The claim that polygamy might not have occurred without the Book of Abraham is bizarre—The ''Bible'' contains the most prominent examples of the practice of polygamy. Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants discusses it as well. Why would the Book of Abraham play such an important role in whether or not the doctrine was implemented? | ||
+ | *The denial of priesthood to blacks was never taught as an "eternal principle." There is no revelation associated with the institution of the priesthood ban, and all explanations by Church leaders that attempted to provide a reason for the ban were later repudiated when the ban was lifted. | ||
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+ | |link=Mormonism and racial issues/Blacks and the priesthood | ||
+ | |subject=Blacks and the priesthood | ||
+ | |summary=Members of African descent were restricted from holding the LDS Church's lay priesthood until 1978. Understanding the priesthood ban is difficult, because the historical record is not entirely clear about the ban's institution. There is no contemporary, first-person account of the ban's implementation. Critics with an agenda, as well as sincere seekers with a laudable abhorrence of racism have used this fact to portray the former (or present) Church and its members as racist. Critics argue that God would not allow His church to ever deny blessings or privileges based on race. | ||
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+ | *{{antispeak|beg the question}} The critics assume that the Book of Abraham cannot be scripture. Based upon their conclusion, the lead the reader to the conclusion that the Church must be false as well. | ||
+ | *The Book of Abraham is still part of the canon. The real issue is whether or not the Book of Abraham is scripture. | ||
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+ | *Every copy of any book written by any author makes it very clear that it was actually written by that author. That doesn't mean that Dan Brown produced the actual printed copy of ''The Davinci Code'' that is sitting on your shelf. Nor does it mean that Abraham wrote the actual Joseph Smith papyri. | ||
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− | |claim= | + | |claim=How do the LDS Egyptologists credentials compare to the nonLDS Egyptologists? |
+ | The two current most prominent Egyptologists on each side of the BOA issue are LDS Egyptologist Michael Rhodes and nonLDS Egyptologist Robert Ritner. Who would you believe is more qualified to answer the question as to the correct interpretation of the facsimiles and of the Egyptian papyri? | ||
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+ | *The critics provide a list of LDS and non-LDS individuals, with the invitation to "see for yourself" whether or not they are qualified to comment on the Book of Abraham. Note the individuals selected and the critics' comments regarding their publications. Also note how the LDS list has been set up to omit some qualified individuals, diminish the credentials of the LDS researchers, and even includes some individuals that do not believe in the truth claims of the Church, including one exposed fraud (Dee Jay Nelson). | ||
+ | *Here is the list of non-LDS scholars provided by MormonThink: | ||
+ | **'''Robert Ritner'''—Critics' comment: "nonLDS Professor of Egyptology....Author of the paper 'The Breathing Permit of HOR' Among The Joseph Smith papyri." | ||
+ | **'''Klaus Baer'''—Critics' comment: "Associate Professor of Egyptology....Wrote article for Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn 1968." | ||
+ | **'''De M. Theodule Deveria''': Critics' comment: "...the first Egyptologist to examine the facsimiles." | ||
+ | **'''Lanny Bell'''—Egyptologist that wrote a review of The Ancient Egyptian "Books of Breathing," the Mormon "Book of Abraham," and the Development of Egyptology in America." | ||
+ | *Here is the list of LDS scholars provided by MormonThink: | ||
+ | **'''Hugh Nibley'''— Critics' comment: "He was a scholar but not an Egyptologist when he was asked to examine the papyri. Since that time he became very interested in Egyptology....He published many articles in the church magazine The Improvement Era regarding the papyri." Actually, contrary to the critics' claim, Nibley studied Egyptian at University of Chicago prior to the discovery of the papyri in the New York Metropolitan Museum. | ||
+ | **'''Michael Rhodes'''—Critics' comment: "Graduate work in Egyptology....Author of Ensign article....From his web site click on his resume and see how he spent most of his career (in the Air Force)." '''Note the ad hominem claim''' that Rhodes' career in the Air Force somehow diminishes his ability to perform work in Egyptology. While listing an unnamed "Ensign article," the critics fail to note that Rhodes has published a translation of the Joseph Smith papyri. | ||
+ | **'''John Gee'''— Critics' comment: "FARMS Egyptologist....He has written many articles for FARMS." The critics credit Gee as a "FARMS Egyptologist" while ignoring the fact that he holds a Ph.D. in Egyptology from Yale University. | ||
+ | **'''Michael Marquardt'''— Critics' comment: "LDS Historical researcher." | ||
+ | **'''Edward H. Ashment'''— Critics' comment: "LDS Egyptologist that disagrees with his colleagues at FARMS about their theories on explaining Joseph's translation of the papyri." | ||
+ | **'''Dee Nelson'''— Critics' comment: "Church member that was one of the first to examine the papyri. He claimed to have a background in Egyptology but was later exposed for misrepresenting his credentials. However, his initial examination of the papyri was correct in that he concluded it was an Egyptian funeral document having nothing to do with Abraham." | ||
+ | **'''Stuart Ferguson'''— Critics' comment: "LDS archeologist....After reports came out that the Joseph Smith papyri was nothing more than common Egyptian funeral documents he lost his testimony." Ferguson shouldn't even be on this list. His interest was Book of Mormon archaeology, not the Book of Abraham. | ||
+ | **'''Stephen E. Thompson'''—Egyptologist and scholar." (NOTE: MormonThink links to an anti-Mormon website for Thompson's biography) | ||
+ | **'''Jeff Lindsay & Kerry Shirts'''—Critics' comment: "Not Egyptologists, not scholars. These guys are just average members with no more authority or credibility than other members." | ||
+ | *Here are some LDS scholars ''not'' included in MormonThink's list | ||
+ | **'''Kerry Muhlestein'''—Dr. Muhlestein received his B.S. cum laude from BYU in Psychology with a Hebrew minor. In order to learn Hebrew, he spent time at the BYU Jerusalem Center for Near Eastern Studies in the intensive Hebrew program. After completing his undergraduate degree, Dr. Muhlestein received an M.A. in Ancient Near Eastern Studies from BYU and then his Ph.D., graduating, from UCLA in Egyptology. | ||
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