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===Chapter 12: Master of Languages===
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===Claims made in "Chapter 12: Master of Languages"===
 
====170====
====170====
||Joseph did not originally intend to translate the papyri "by inspiration as in the past," and instead attempted to formulate an Egyptian alphabet and grammar.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Kirtland Egyptian Papers]]
*Joseph did not originally intend to translate the papyri "by inspiration as in the past," and instead attempted to formulate an Egyptian alphabet and grammar.
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|response=
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*[[Book of Abraham/Joseph Smith Papyri/Kirtland Egyptian Papers]]
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====171====
====171====
||Joseph picked up the idea that there were plural gods when he learned in Hebrew class that Elohim was plural.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Polytheism]]
*Joseph picked up the idea that there were plural gods when he learned in Hebrew class that Elohim was plural.
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|response=
*[[Nature of God/Polytheism]]
|authorsources=
*Author's opinion.
*Author's opinion.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
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====171====
====171====
||Joseph developed the concept in the Book of Abraham that the earth was organized out of existing matter from Thomas Dick's Philosophy of a Future State.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Was Joseph Smith's theology influenced by the writings of Thomas Dick?]]
*Joseph developed the concept in the Book of Abraham that the earth was organized out of existing matter from Thomas Dick's Philosophy of a Future State.
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|response=
*[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick]]
|authorsources=
*Author's opinion.
*Author's opinion.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
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====171====
====171====
||Joseph developed the idea that matter was "eternal and indestructible" from Thomas Dick's work.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Was Joseph Smith's theology influenced by the writings of Thomas Dick?]]
*Joseph developed the idea that matter was "eternal and indestructible" from Thomas Dick's work.
||
|response=
*[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick]]
|authorsources=
*Author's opinion.
*Author's opinion.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
|-
}}
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====172====
====172====
||Joseph's concept of Kolob being "near the throne of God" and its control of the reckoning of time came from Thomas Dick.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Was Joseph Smith's theology influenced by the writings of Thomas Dick?]]
*Joseph's concept of Kolob being "near the throne of God" and its control of the reckoning of time came from Thomas Dick.
||
|response=
*[[Book of Abraham/Plagiarism accusations/Thomas Dick]]
|authorsources=
*Author's opinion.
*Author's opinion.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
*Thomas Dick, ''Philosophy of a Future State''.
|-
}}
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====173====
====173====
||Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham in order to justify denying the priesthood to Blacks.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham in order to justify denying the priesthood to Blacks.
|response=
*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Origin of the priesthood ban|Blacks and the priesthood—Origin of the priesthood ban]]
*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Origin of the priesthood ban|Blacks and the priesthood—Origin of the priesthood ban]]
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|authorsources=
*Author's opinion.
*Author's opinion.
|-
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====173====
====173====
||Joseph criticized the abolitionist movement.
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|claim=
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*Joseph criticized the abolitionist movement.
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|response=
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|authorsources=
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====174====
====174====
||Joseph taught that "one third of the spirits had been neutral" in Heaven.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*Joseph taught that "one third of the spirits had been neutral" in Heaven.
|response=
*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Pre-existence]]
*[[Blacks and the priesthood/Pre-existence]]
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|authorsources=
*Orson Hyde, "Speech before the High Priests," Nauvoo, April 27, 1845 printed as a pamphlet by the ''Millennial Star'' office, July 1845, p. 27.
*Orson Hyde, "Speech before the High Priests," Nauvoo, April 27, 1845 printed as a pamphlet by the ''Millennial Star'' office, July 1845, p. 27.
|-
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====174====
====174====
||Joseph taught that his family was directly descended from Ephraim.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
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*Joseph taught that his family was directly descended from Ephraim.
|response=
|authorsources=
*''History of the Church'', Vol. III, p. 380.
*''History of the Church'', Vol. III, p. 380.
|-
}}
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====175====
====175====
||The Book of Abraham facsimiles are ordinary funeral documents.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Book of Abraham papyri]]
*The Book of Abraham facsimiles are ordinary funeral documents.
|-
|response=
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*[[Book of Abraham/Joseph Smith Papyri]]
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====179====
====179====
||It was reported that some of the men were drunk during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.
{{IndexClaim
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|claim=
*[[Reports of Drunken Behavior at the Kirtland Temple Dedication]]
*It was reported that some of the men were drunk during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.
{{EndClaimsTable}}
|response=
*[[Temples/Reports of Drunken Behavior at the Kirtland Temple Dedication]]
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Claims made in "Chapter 11: Patronage and Punishment"
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 Claims made in "Chapter 13: My Kingdom is of this World"

Claims made in "Chapter 12: Master of Languages"

170

Claim
  • Joseph did not originally intend to translate the papyri "by inspiration as in the past," and instead attempted to formulate an Egyptian alphabet and grammar.

Response

171

Claim
  • Joseph picked up the idea that there were plural gods when he learned in Hebrew class that Elohim was plural.

Author's source(s)

  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.

Response

171

Claim
  • Joseph developed the concept in the Book of Abraham that the earth was organized out of existing matter from Thomas Dick's Philosophy of a Future State.

Author's source(s)

  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.

Response

171

Claim
  • Joseph developed the idea that matter was "eternal and indestructible" from Thomas Dick's work.

Author's source(s)

  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.

Response

172

Claim
  • Joseph's concept of Kolob being "near the throne of God" and its control of the reckoning of time came from Thomas Dick.

Author's source(s)

  • Author's opinion.
  • Thomas Dick, Philosophy of a Future State.

Response

173

Claim
  • Joseph wrote the Book of Abraham in order to justify denying the priesthood to Blacks.

Author's source(s)

  • Author's opinion.

Response

173

Claim
  • Joseph criticized the abolitionist movement.

Response
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174

Claim
  • Joseph taught that "one third of the spirits had been neutral" in Heaven.

Author's source(s)

  • Orson Hyde, "Speech before the High Priests," Nauvoo, April 27, 1845 printed as a pamphlet by the Millennial Star office, July 1845, p. 27.

Response

174

Claim
  • Joseph taught that his family was directly descended from Ephraim.

Author's source(s)

  • History of the Church, Vol. III, p. 380.

Response
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175

Claim
  • The Book of Abraham facsimiles are ordinary funeral documents.

Response

179

Claim
  • It was reported that some of the men were drunk during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.

Response

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