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| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Doesn't mention a revival|subject=Revivals in 1820?|summary=Did Joseph's 1832 account not mention any religious revivals in his area?}} | + | |subject=One personage? |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Motivation is different|subject=Motivation for praying|summary=Was Joseph's motivation in the 1832 account different than later accounts?}} | + | |summary=Did Joseph Smith claim to see only one Personage in his 1832 vision account? |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Doesn't mention new dispensation|subject=New dispensation|summary=Was the idea of a new dispensation a later addition to Joseph's account?}} | + | }} |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Doesn't forbid joining a church|subject=Forbidden to join|summary=Did Joseph really not mention being forbidden to join other churches in 1832?}} | + | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Different age provided|subject=Different age? |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Doesn't mention persecution|subject=Persecution|summary=Was persecution for his vision absent in Joseph's 1832 account?}} | + | |summary=Did Joseph give a different age in the 1832 account? |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Struggle with Satan not mentioned|subject=Struggle with Satan|summary=Why isn't the Prophet's struggle with Satan in the 1832 account? | + | }} |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Says wicked will be destroyed but 1838 doesn't|subject=Destruction of wicked|summary=Why does the 1832 account mention destruction of the wicked but the 1838 account doesn't?}} | + | {{SummaryItem |
| − | {{SummaryItem|link=/1832/Vision set in heaven or on earth|subject=Heaven or earth?|summary=Is the 1832 vision set in heaven or on the earth?}} | + | |link=/1832/Doesn't mention a revival |
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===Criticisms of Joseph's [[/1835|1835 account]] of the First Vision=== | ===Criticisms of Joseph's [[/1835|1835 account]] of the First Vision=== | ||
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Contents
- 1 Questions
- 2 Detailed Analysis
- 3
- 4 Topics
- 4.1 Criticisms of the accounts in general
- 4.2 Censorship and revision of LDS History: The First Vision?
- 4.3 Criticisms of Joseph's 1832 account of the First Vision
- 4.4 One personage?
- 4.5 Different age?
- 4.6 Revivals in 1820?
- 4.7 Motivation for praying
- 4.8 New dispensation
- 4.9 Forbidden to join
- 4.10 Persecution
- 4.11 Struggle with Satan
- 4.12 Destruction of wicked
- 4.13 Heaven or earth?
- 4.14 Eternal life
- 4.15 Criticisms of Joseph's 1835 account of the First Vision
- 4.16 Angels
- 4.17 Criticisms of Joseph's 1838 account of the First Vision
- 4.18 [[../Smith family place of residence in 1820|Removal to Manchester]]
- 4.19 [[../Methodist camp meetings|Commenced with the Methodists]]
- 4.20 [[../Lucy Mack Smith and the Presbyterians|Joseph's family joining Presbyterians]]
- 4.21 Leadership crisis?
- 4.22 Criticism of other individuals' accounts of the First Vision
- 4.23 George Q. Cannon referred to angels
- 4.24 Oliver Cowdery's 1834 account of the First Vision/Moroni's visit
- 4.25 Orson Hyde referred to angels
- 4.26 Personage as an angel
- 4.27 Kimball denial?
- 4.28 Pratt calls personage an angel
- 4.29 God only appeared?
- 4.30 George A. Smith unaware?
- 4.31 Lucy Mack Smith mentions an angel
- 4.32 William Smith mentions and angel
- 4.33 Orson Spencer mentions an angel
- 4.34 John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision
- 4.35 Wilford Woodruff mentions an angel
- 4.36 Brigham Young's understanding of the First Vision
- 4.37 Brigham said the the Lord "didn't appear?"
- 5 Answer
- 6 Further reading
Questions
==
Joseph Smith gave several accounts of the First Vision. Critics charge that differences in the accounts show that he changed and embellished his story over time, and that he therefore had no such vision.
To see citations to the critical sources for these claims, [[../CriticalSources|click here]]
==Detailed Analysis
==
Church response
Joseph's vision was at first an intensely personal experience—an answer to a specific question. Over time, however, illuminated by additional experience and instruction, it became the founding revelation of the Restoration.
—Dennis B. Neuenschwander, “Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ,” Ensign, Jan 2009, 16–22
I am not worried that the Prophet Joseph Smith gave a number of versions of the first vision anymore than I am worried that there are four different writers of the gospels in the New Testament, each with his own perceptions, each telling the events to meet his own purpose for writing at the time. I am more concerned with the fact that God has revealed in this dispensation a great and marvelous and beautiful plan that motivates men and women to love their Creator and their Redeemer, to appreciate and serve one another, to walk in faith on the road that leads to immortality and eternal life.
—Gordon B. Hinckley, “‘God Hath Not Given Us the Spirit of Fear’,” Ensign, Oct 1984, 2
FAIR commentary
Critics of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints often seek to point out differences between the various accounts which Joseph Smith gave of his First Vision. In defense of their position that the Prophet changed his story over a six year period (1832 to 1838) they claim that the earliest followers of Joseph Smith either didn’t know about the First Vision, or seem to have been confused about it.
Topics
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Criticisms of the accounts in general
Censorship and revision of LDS History: The First Vision?
Summary: Critics charge that the existence of multiple accounts of the First Vision have been suppressed or hidden.Criticisms of Joseph's 1832 account of the First Vision
One personage?
Summary: Did Joseph Smith claim to see only one Personage in his 1832 vision account?Different age?
Summary: Did Joseph give a different age in the 1832 account?Revivals in 1820?
Summary: Did Joseph's 1832 account not mention any religious revivals in his area?Motivation for praying
Summary: Was Joseph's motivation in the 1832 account different than later accounts?New dispensation
Summary: Was the idea of a new dispensation a later addition to Joseph's account?Forbidden to join
Summary: Did Joseph really not mention being forbidden to join other churches in 1832?Persecution
Summary: Was persecution for his vision absent in Joseph's 1832 account?Struggle with Satan
Summary: Why isn't the Prophet's struggle with Satan in the 1832 account?Destruction of wicked
Summary: Why does the 1832 account mention destruction of the wicked but the 1838 account doesn't?Heaven or earth?
Summary: Is the 1832 vision set in heaven or on the earth?Eternal life
Summary: Does the 1832 account say that eternal life is given to everyone regardless of church affiliation?Criticisms of Joseph's 1835 account of the First Vision
Angels
Summary: The 1835 account mentions "Angels"Criticisms of Joseph's 1838 account of the First Vision
[[../Smith family place of residence in 1820|Removal to Manchester]]
Summary: Where was the Smith family living in the second year after their "removal to Manchester?"[[../Methodist camp meetings|Commenced with the Methodists]]
Summary: Joseph said that the religious excitement "commenced with the Methodists"[[../Lucy Mack Smith and the Presbyterians|Joseph's family joining Presbyterians]]
Summary: When was Joseph's family "proselyted to the Presbyterian faith?"Leadership crisis?
Summary: Did Joseph create the 1838 account to offset a leadership crisis?Criticism of other individuals' accounts of the First Vision
George Q. Cannon referred to angels
Summary: Did George Q. Cannon claim Joseph only had the ministering of angels?Oliver Cowdery's 1834 account of the First Vision/Moroni's visit
Summary: Was Oliver Cowdery unaware of the First Vision as late as 1834–1835?Orson Hyde referred to angels
Summary: Did Orson Hyde really claim Joseph only had the ministering of angels?Personage as an angel
Summary: Did Andrew Jenson call Joseph's heavenly visitor "an angel," rather than God?Kimball denial?
Summary: Did Heber C. Kimball really deny that the Father appeared to Joseph?Pratt calls personage an angel
Summary: Was Orson Pratt confused about who appeared at the First vision?God only appeared?
Summary: Did Parley P. Pratt only mention the appearance of God? }}George A. Smith unaware?
Summary: Was George A. Smith unaware of the visit of the Father and the Son?Lucy Mack Smith mentions an angel
Summary: Did Lucy Mack Smith, Joseph's mother, refer to "an angel," rather than God?William Smith mentions and angel
Summary: Where did William Smith get the idea that an "angel" appeared?Orson Spencer mentions an angel
Summary: Did Orson Spencer say that the Prophet's first manifestation was of an "angel"?John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision
Summary: Did John Taylor teach that Joseph Smith saw only one Deity?Wilford Woodruff mentions an angel
Summary: Did Wilford Woodruff speak of an "angel" appearing during the First Vision?Brigham Young's understanding of the First Vision
Summary: Did Brigham Young really never mention the First Vision in his lifetime of preaching?Brigham said the the Lord "didn't appear?"
Summary: Did Brigham Young claim only an angel appeared? ==Answer
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Joseph Smith's various accounts of the First Vision were targeted at different audiences, and had different purposes. They, however, show a remarkable degree of harmony between them. There is no evidence that the early leaders of the LDS Church did not understand that the Prophet saw two Divine Personages during his inaugural theophany.
== Notes ==