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Brigham Young said "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy" (Journal of Discourses 11:269). <span style="color:blue">Last I checked, Journal of Discourses is not anti-mormon.</span> | Brigham Young said "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy" (Journal of Discourses 11:269). <span style="color:blue">Last I checked, Journal of Discourses is not anti-mormon.</span> | ||
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*The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''October 9, 2012''' in his [[Criticism of Mormonism/Online documents/Letter to a CES Director/An "open letter" to Elder Quentin L. Cook "Open Letter" to Elder Quentin L. Cook]] <ref>Jeremy Runnells, "Open Letter" to Elder Quentin L. Cook posted on the ex-Mormon subreddit on October 9, 2012.</ref>: | *The author of "A Letter to a CES Director" said on '''October 9, 2012''' in his [[Criticism of Mormonism/Online documents/Letter to a CES Director/An "open letter" to Elder Quentin L. Cook|"Open Letter" to Elder Quentin L. Cook]] <ref>Jeremy Runnells, "Open Letter" to Elder Quentin L. Cook posted on the ex-Mormon subreddit on October 9, 2012.</ref>: | ||
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....Respected LDS Historian and <span style="color:blue">"Rough Stone Rolling"</span> author Richard Bushman totally lied and deceived me....Elder Russell M. Nelson also endorsed this stone in hat method of translation of the Book of Mormon in his <span style="color:blue">July 1993 Ensign "A Treasured Testament" talk</span>. You might want to have a quick chat with him to get his talk corrected. Like, pronto....<span style="color:blue">Joseph Smith's own journals</span> have obviously been tampered with....LDS-owned <span style="color:blue">FamilySearch.org</span> listing Joseph's teen brides....he, according to <span style="color:blue">FAIR, FARMS, FamilySearch.org and LDS historians</span>, really did practice polygamy....that lie is in the <span style="color:blue">Journal of Discourses</span>...might want to delete it pronto.... | ....Respected LDS Historian and <span style="color:blue">"Rough Stone Rolling"</span> author Richard Bushman totally lied and deceived me....Elder Russell M. Nelson also endorsed this stone in hat method of translation of the Book of Mormon in his <span style="color:blue">July 1993 Ensign "A Treasured Testament" talk</span>. You might want to have a quick chat with him to get his talk corrected. Like, pronto....<span style="color:blue">Joseph Smith's own journals</span> have obviously been tampered with....LDS-owned <span style="color:blue">FamilySearch.org</span> listing Joseph's teen brides....he, according to <span style="color:blue">FAIR, FARMS, FamilySearch.org and LDS historians</span>, really did practice polygamy....that lie is in the <span style="color:blue">Journal of Discourses</span>...might want to delete it pronto.... | ||
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Response to "Conclusion"
| [[../Other Concerns & Questions|Other Concerns & Questions]] | A FAIR Analysis of: [[../|Letter to a CES Director]] A work by author: Jeremy Runnells
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FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could.
—Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director," April 2013
—Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director," April 2013
FAIR confirms polyandry and the rock in the hat translation. Both of these issues usually cause severe cog dis in members. They did with me. I mean, once the rock in the hat story was confirmed, the whole thing collapsed because the rock in the hat ruins the official story of ancient prophets creating gold plates for Joseph and the testimony of the witnesses of the gold plates (since Joseph never used the plates anyway).
—Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director," April 30, 2013
—Jeremy Runnells, "Letter to a CES Director," April 30, 2013
I used to think the people at FairMormon were just delusional but with honest intentions. Now after dealing with them for close to a year now? They're not only delusional but dishonest and deceptive.
—Jeremy Runnells, author of "Letter to a CES Director" June 22, 2014. [1]
—Jeremy Runnells, author of "Letter to a CES Director" June 22, 2014. [1]
- "Among the first sources I looked to for answers were official Church sources such as Mormon.org and LDS.org. I couldn’t find them."
- "FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could"
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"Among the first sources I looked to for answers were official Church sources such as Mormon.org and LDS.org. I couldn’t find them."
"FAIR and these unofficial apologists have done more to destroy my testimony than any anti-Mormon source ever could"
Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship, "Eye of the Beholder, Law of the Harvest: Observations on the Inevitable Consequences of the Different Investigative Approaches of Jeremy Runnells and Jeff Lindsay"
Kevin Christensen, Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship, (2014)A large portion of the complaints that Runnells makes both in his Letter and his response to FairMormon works from an assumption that LDS leadership should display no weakness, have no common manner of language, never err in their statements, never need to seek wisdom since they should already have it all on the shelf, never sin and therefore never need to repent, and have all knowledge from the start so that no one, especially not Runnells, might ever need to change their thinking on any subject, no matter how trivial, especially not after having attended EFY, read some “approved” books, and served a mission.
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- ↑ Jeremy Runnells, posted as "kolobot" on the ex-Mormon subreddit, June 22, 2014.