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In developing our response, our primary intended audience is not necessarily Snuffer nor his associates, but rather those individuals, perhaps faithful Latter-day Saints, perhaps questioning, perhaps once-faithful but now sincerely doubting, who may have come across his teachings and been troubled by its contents. | In developing our response, our primary intended audience is not necessarily Snuffer nor his associates, but rather those individuals, perhaps faithful Latter-day Saints, perhaps questioning, perhaps once-faithful but now sincerely doubting, who may have come across his teachings and been troubled by its contents. | ||
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+ | ==Untruths== | ||
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+ | |claim=Snuffer told his stake president and the First Presidency: "I was shown a section of the Church Handbook of Instructions that mandated discipline for criticizing the church’s leaders. I explained I hadn’t done that. I quoted from past church leaders’ diaries, journals, talks, letters or writings. But I did not criticize.<ref>Snuffer to First Presidency, Letter (13 September 2013), reproduced in {{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Mesa|pages=42}}</ref> | ||
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+ | This claim is blatantly false. Snuffer's book is filled with criticism of the Church's leaders: | ||
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+ | ===LDS leaders = Popes=== | ||
+ | He compares modern leaders to the Popes, making false claims: | ||
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+ | * "The proud descendants of Nauvoo who have always retained control of the church’s top leadership positions, claim to hold all the keys ever given to Joseph Smith. They teach that they can bind on earth and in heaven. They are the ‘new Popes’ having the authority the Catholic Pope claims to possess."<ref>{{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Passing the Heavenly Gift|pages=303, see also 66, 263}} | ||
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+ | If this is not a criticism, what is it? | ||
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+ | ===LDS leaders = Proud=== | ||
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+ | He repeatedly labels all general leaders since Nauvoo as "proud": | ||
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+ | * “Ever since the expulsion of church members from Nauvoo, the highest leadership positions in the church have been held by Nauvoo’s proud descendants.”<ref>{{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Passing the Heavenly Gift|pages=113}}</ref> | ||
+ | * “The proud refugees from Nauvoo and their descendants have always claimed they succeeded in doing all that was required.”<ref>{{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Passing the Heavenly Gift|pages=381}}</ref> | ||
+ | * “If [my] new view of history is more correct than the narrative offered by the proud descendants of Nauvoo…”<ref>{{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Passing the Heavenly Gift|pages=420}}</ref> | ||
+ | * “The Nauvoo saints and their proud descendants would necessarily diminish. This view is unlikely to ever be accepted by a church whose leadership is filled overwhelmingly by those same proud descendants of Nauvoo. There hasn’t been a single church president without Nauvoo ancestors.”<ref>{{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Passing the Heavenly Gift|pages=119}}</ref> | ||
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+ | To be "proud" is to be guilty of great sin. This is a criticism. Snuffer's claim to not criticize is false. | ||
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+ | ===LDS leaders = not true messengers=== | ||
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+ | Snuffer writes: | ||
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+ | :Part of the ceremony [made] it...clear to those who participated that there were no mortal sources who could claim they were ‘true messengers.’ Mortal men were universally depicted as false ministers in the ceremony Joseph restored. The only source of true messengers was God or angels sent by Him.<ref>{{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Passing the Heavenly Gift|pages=276}}</ref> | ||
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+ | LDS prophets and apostles claim to be true messengers from God. Snuffer says that they are not. This is a criticism. Snuffer's claim to not criticize is false. | ||
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+ | ===LDS leaders = forced stake president to act=== | ||
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+ | Snuffer claims that senior Church leadership engineered his excommunication.<ref>Snuffer to First Presidency, Letter (13 September 2013), 1–2; reproduced in {{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Mesa|pages=41-42}} He does not tell us, however, that his stake president made it clear that he was acting based upon a spiritual manifestation to him: | ||
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+ | :The issue for consideration to [your] disciplinary council is whether the continued publication of ''Passing the Heavenly Gift'' constitutes an act of apostasy and, if so, what the appropriate remedy should be.... | ||
+ | :I cannot deny, however, the spirit’s influence on me and the responsibilities I have to protect the interests of the Church. I have tried to persuade you that PTHG is not constructive to the work of salvation or the promotion of faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ. | ||
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+ | ===Snuffer sustains his leaders?=== | ||
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+ | When he arrived at his disciplinary hearing, Snuffer tells us that: | ||
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+ | : | ||
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+ | Yet, Snuffer would not even respect disciplinary council procedures and the stake president's decision to exclude Snuffer's children from the proceeding. | ||
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+ | : | ||
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+ | Snuffer makes it sound as if he was refused admission to the council: | ||
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+ | :I was prevented from entering the room with my children. Therefore I was unable to speak with the High Council about the matter.<ref>Snuffer to First Presidency, Letter (13 September 2013), 2; reproduced in {{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Mesa|pages=42}}</ref> | ||
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+ | In fact, however, he was simply not permitted to use the council to serve his own agenda. He could have spoken with the High Council, but instead, chose to leave without participating or learning of the council's decision: | ||
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+ | : | ||
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+ | Later, Snuffer would claim that the high council | ||
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+ | :used their dominion over me to sustain the charges and ratify all that went on before.<ref>Snuffer to First Presidency, Letter (13 September 2013), 2; reproduced in {{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Mesa|pages=42}}</ref> | ||
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+ | This is nonsense. Snuffer's behavior was simply further proof that the charges were true—he was in active apostasy, would not respect the reasonable requests of his priesthood leaders. It had nothing to do with them using "dominion"—they had so little dominion that they couldn't even compel Snuffer to come into the room if he chose not to. All they could do was ratify what Snuffer had already done—cut himself off from the Church. | ||
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+ | ===Snuffer is "temple worthy"?=== | ||
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+ | This issue would not be raised if Snuffer had not made it an issue. He claims: | ||
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+ | :I was and am worthy of a Temple Recommend<ref> </ref> | ||
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+ | One temple recommend question asks if the member sustains the President of the Church, First Presidency, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, and his local leaders. Snuffer has made it clear he does not sustain any of these leaders because: | ||
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+ | * he has repeatedly criticized them (see above); | ||
+ | * he claims that the prophet and the apostles do not have the priesthood keys that they claim to have;<ref>For an extensive evaluation of these claims, see {{Criticism_of_Mormonism/Books/Passing_the_Heavenly_Gift/Source_of_authority_of_Brigham_Young_and_the_apostles_after_Joseph%27s_death|here}}.</ref> | ||
+ | * he has refused to refrain from publishing what his stake president referred to as "mischaracterized doctrine" in a book whose "thesis is in direct conflict with church doctrine"<ref>M. Truman Hunt to Denver Snuffer, “Notice of Disciplinary Council,” letter (21 August 2013), 1–2. Online at Denver Snuffer, “Don’t call me. (Yes, that means you too!),” from the desk of Denver Snuffer (blog), 23 August 2013, {{antilink|http://denversnuffer.blogspot.ca/2013/08/dont-call-me-yes-that-means-you-too_23.html}}</ref> | ||
+ | * he has refused to comply with disciplinary council procedures, despite his stake president's request (see above). | ||
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+ | Snuffer's claim is false—by his own description of his behavior, he was not "worthy of a temple recommend." He either does not understand the temple recommend questions, or he is being dishonest with his readers, the First Presidency, and perhaps himself. | ||
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+ | ===Conclusion=== | ||
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+ | {{Epigraph|To the extent I have ever spoken about living church leaders I have praised them.<br> | ||
+ | :::::— Denver Snuffer<ref>Snuffer to First Presidency, Letter (13 September 2013), reproduced in {{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Mesa|pages=42}}</ref> | ||
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+ | Snuffer's account is not accurate. He has repeatedly criticized and attacked Church leaders. | ||
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+ | Snuffer claims that his stake president agree with this after he 'explained' it to him: | ||
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+ | :I denied this accusation and after giving the explanation President Hunt agreed.<ref>Snuffer to First Presidency, Letter (13 September 2013), reproduced in {{CriticalWork:Snuffer:Mesa|pages=42}}</ref> | ||
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+ | However, his stake president seems to see the matter very differently, as revealed in a letter he wrote to Snuffer which Snuffer made public: | ||
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+ | :you [Denver Snuffer] have mischaracterized doctrine, '''denigrated virtually every prophet since Joseph Smith''', and placed the church in a negative light....<ref>M. Truman Hunt to Denver Snuffer, “Notice of Disciplinary Council,” letter (21 August 2013), 1–2. Online at Denver Snuffer, “Don’t call me. (Yes, that means you too!),” from the desk of Denver Snuffer (blog), 23 August 2013, {{antilink|http://denversnuffer.blogspot.ca/2013/08/dont-call-me-yes-that-means-you-too_23.html}}</ref> | ||
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+ | It seems more likely, then, that Snuffer's stake president concluded that further attempts to reason with Snuffer on this issue was pointless. Anyone who can make so many criticisms and complaints, and then insist with a straight face that they've ''never'' criticized Church leaders is either dishonest, or not open to reasoned discussion. | ||
==Priesthood and ordinances== | ==Priesthood and ordinances== |
Denver Snuffer was excommunicated for apostasy on 11 September 2013 because of the claims made in his book Passing the Heavenly Gift.[1] Following his excommunication, Snuffer has declared, among other things, that the Church's First Presidency has lost their authority, and claimed that Jesus appeared to him to instruct him. This wiki page examines his historical and other claims.
In developing our response, our primary intended audience is not necessarily Snuffer nor his associates, but rather those individuals, perhaps faithful Latter-day Saints, perhaps questioning, perhaps once-faithful but now sincerely doubting, who may have come across his teachings and been troubled by its contents.
Snuffer told his stake president and the First Presidency: "I was shown a section of the Church Handbook of Instructions that mandated discipline for criticizing the church’s leaders. I explained I hadn’t done that. I quoted from past church leaders’ diaries, journals, talks, letters or writings. But I did not criticize.[2]
This claim is blatantly false. Snuffer's book is filled with criticism of the Church's leaders:
He compares modern leaders to the Popes, making false claims:
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LDS prophets and apostles claim to be true messengers from God. Snuffer says that they are not. This is a criticism. Snuffer's claim to not criticize is false.
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In fact, however, he was simply not permitted to use the council to serve his own agenda. He could have spoken with the High Council, but instead, chose to leave without participating or learning of the council's decision:
Later, Snuffer would claim that the high council
This is nonsense. Snuffer's behavior was simply further proof that the charges were true—he was in active apostasy, would not respect the reasonable requests of his priesthood leaders. It had nothing to do with them using "dominion"—they had so little dominion that they couldn't even compel Snuffer to come into the room if he chose not to. All they could do was ratify what Snuffer had already done—cut himself off from the Church.
This issue would not be raised if Snuffer had not made it an issue. He claims:
One temple recommend question asks if the member sustains the President of the Church, First Presidency, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, and his local leaders. Snuffer has made it clear he does not sustain any of these leaders because:
Snuffer's claim is false—by his own description of his behavior, he was not "worthy of a temple recommend." He either does not understand the temple recommend questions, or he is being dishonest with his readers, the First Presidency, and perhaps himself.
{{Epigraph|To the extent I have ever spoken about living church leaders I have praised them.
Snuffer's account is not accurate. He has repeatedly criticized and attacked Church leaders.
Snuffer claims that his stake president agree with this after he 'explained' it to him:
However, his stake president seems to see the matter very differently, as revealed in a letter he wrote to Snuffer which Snuffer made public:
It seems more likely, then, that Snuffer's stake president concluded that further attempts to reason with Snuffer on this issue was pointless. Anyone who can make so many criticisms and complaints, and then insist with a straight face that they've never criticized Church leaders is either dishonest, or not open to reasoned discussion.
[There is] no salvation between the two lids of the bible without a legal administrator.
- —Joseph Smith[14]
"Even if you give the most optimistic assessment of the restoration and current condition of the church it can do nothing for the individual Latter-day Saint. We must all find salvation for ourselves.[15]
The Doctrine and Covenants teaches that some things are required from the Church for full salvation to its members. The Lord says of those who have acted wickedly:
These scriptures teach that it is a great tragedy and punishment if:
Joseph Smith always administered these things through the Church's organizational structure: these ordinances require legitimate authority, and are important for exaltation, contrary to Snuffer's claims.
Just before his death, Joseph emphasized:
Snuffer's efforts to dismiss the importance of the Church and its ordinances via priesthood authority lead him to preach false doctrine.
"[I]t would be good to have an authorized minister to perform the ordinance [of baptism, but] it does not matter whether there is an officiator with authority from God on the earth or not...."[17]
The scriptures and Joseph Smith repeatedly teach that an authorized priesthood holder is necessary for ordinances, including baptism:
"[I]t would be good to have an authorized minister to perform the ordinance [of baptism, but] it does not matter whether there is an officiator with authority from God on the earth or not...."[18]
Snuffer claims anyone can baptize without authority, but the Doctrine and Covenants teaches that not even all priesthood offices can baptize:
The scripture tells us precisely who may baptize:
Snuffer claims God has called him to preach his doctrines. [needs work][20]
The scriptures tell us that one may not preach the gospel or build up the Church without known authority:
Not only does Snuffer have no authority from the heads of the Church, he certainly not been "regularly ordained." Instead, he has been excommunicated for apostasy.
His teachings and claims violate the scriptures he claims to uphold.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 42:11)
" If the Holy Ghost will visit you even without an authoritative ordinance then the responsibility to live so as to invite the Spirit is all you need to have that same companionship the ordinance could confer...."[21]
Snuffer claims that receiving the ordinance of confirmation and the gift of the Holy Ghost makes no difference. But, Joseph Smith taught the opposite:
Snuffer is teaching false doctrine about the Restoration.
Ordinances do not need to be performed by one with legitimate Church authority, since "the required priestly authority is still available through the veil."[23]
Snuffer again contradicts Joseph Smith, who made it very clear that no ordinances would be performed by divine messengers once the authority had been conferred on mortals:
Snuffer claims the Church has lost the fullness, but "[t]he required priestly authority is still available through the veil."[25]
Snuffer claims that the Church has lost vital priesthood authority, and so ordinances do not need it, or Snuffer's followers can get it "through the veil."
Joseph Smith said that the Church would never lack priesthood authority, and that if someone claimed a heavenly messenger had brought them authority, they were either:
"You do not need buildings to meet. Tithing is for the poor."[27]
The Doctrine and Covenants teaches a different doctrine. For example, tithing is commanded for the building of temples:
Likewise D&C 117꞉2-3 commands tithing for a variety of purposes:
Thus, tithing is properly used for temples and other activities consistent with building the kingdom of God ("laying the foundation of Zion and for the priesthood"). Joseph Smith used tithing for such purposes throughout his administration.
"The poor" are nowhere mentioned in these commands, since the scriptures have a different mechanism for providing for them—the fast (Isaiah 58:6-7).
"[My book Passing the Heavenly Gift is] the most correct account of our dispensation written so far...."[28]
Despite this grandiose claim, Snuffer's book is filled with historical errors, omissions, and misrepresentations.
"Joseph Smith only built one building—a temple."[29]
This claim is false. The Doctrine and Covenants commands that consecrated Church funds be used for a variety of purposes:
Through Joseph, the Lord directed the construction of many buildings besides temples:
Snuffer's history is simply wrong, and he makes false claims based upon his false history.
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