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||Quoting Whelan: "[T]here still remains within the Church a limited form of plural marriage. Those husbands who have lost a beloved spouse and are left alone in this world can still be married for time and eternity to another wife....It is clear that all marriages continued in heaven will involve participation in plural marriage." | ||Quoting Whelan: "[T]here still remains within the Church a limited form of plural marriage. Those husbands who have lost a beloved spouse and are left alone in this world can still be married for time and eternity to another wife....It is clear that all marriages continued in heaven will involve participation in plural marriage." | ||
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| + | * It is not clear what the author hopes to demonstrate by this claim, or why Shane Whelan's view carries any weight beyond his own opinions. | ||
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*Shane LeGrand Whelan, ''More Than One: Plural Marriage—A Sacred Heritage, A Promise for Tomorrow'', 208. | *Shane LeGrand Whelan, ''More Than One: Plural Marriage—A Sacred Heritage, A Promise for Tomorrow'', 208. | ||
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||"Of course, when any religion or denomination is tainted by the stain of racism, it always leaves future members in a very awkward position. And to be fair, Mormonism is not alone in this predicament. A number of Christian denominations (e.g. the Southern Baptists) have had to work very hard at racial reconciliation, often using public declarations to repudiate past racist statements by leaders." | ||"Of course, when any religion or denomination is tainted by the stain of racism, it always leaves future members in a very awkward position. And to be fair, Mormonism is not alone in this predicament. A number of Christian denominations (e.g. the Southern Baptists) have had to work very hard at racial reconciliation, often using public declarations to repudiate past racist statements by leaders." | ||
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| − | * There is, of course, no hint of this perspective in the chapter branding members of the Church as racists with a "white supremacist" theology. | + | * There is, "of course," no hint of this perspective in the chapter branding members of the Church as racists with a "white supremacist" theology. |
* [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Double_standard_on_race|ONUG's double standard on race]] | * [[One_Nation_Under_Gods/Use_of_sources/Double_standard_on_race|ONUG's double standard on race]] | ||
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||Gordon B. Hinckley "admitted in April 2002 that Mormons do not believe in the same 'Jesus' revered throughout Christendom. According to Hinckley, Christendom's concept of Christ comes not from the Bible, but from corrupt traditions of men....The LDS concept of God, instead, comes from Smith's alleged 1820 vision." | ||Gordon B. Hinckley "admitted in April 2002 that Mormons do not believe in the same 'Jesus' revered throughout Christendom. According to Hinckley, Christendom's concept of Christ comes not from the Bible, but from corrupt traditions of men....The LDS concept of God, instead, comes from Smith's alleged 1820 vision." | ||
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| − | * | + | *[[Worship different Jesus|Mormons worship a different 'Jesus'?]] |
| − | *[[ | + | *This was no "confession"—President Hinckley was bearing testimony of Christ. The Saints believe in the God of the Bible, which is consistent with Joseph Smith's vision. They do not accept the nonbiblical creeds added later. See: |
| + | ** [[Did_Gordon_B._Hinckley_say_that_Latter-day_Saints_do_not_believe_in_the_Biblical_Christ%3F|President Hinckley believes in the biblical Christ]] | ||
| + | ** [[Did_Gordon_B._Hinckley_say_that_Latter-day_Saints_do_not_believe_in_the_Biblical_Christ%3F#Further_statements|President Hinckley insists he is a Christian]] | ||
| + | **[[Becoming_Gods#The_.22Mormon_Jesus.22_versus_the_.22Traditional_Jesus.22|Author's distorted "Mormon" Jesus vs. "Traditional" Jesus]] | ||
| + | * [[Latter-day_Saints_aren't_Christians]] | ||
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* [[Corporeality_of_God]] | * [[Corporeality_of_God]] | ||
* [[Godhead_and_the_Trinity]] | * [[Godhead_and_the_Trinity]] | ||
| + | * [[Latter-day_Saints_aren't_Christians]] | ||
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*Dallin H. Oaks, "[http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=2dd843097758b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1 Apostasy and Restoration]," ''Ensign'', May 1995, 84. | *Dallin H. Oaks, "[http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=2dd843097758b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1 Apostasy and Restoration]," ''Ensign'', May 1995, 84. | ||
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| Claims made in "Chapter 18: Cover-Ups, Conspiracies, and Controversies" | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Richard Abanes
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Claims made in "Appendix A: Abraham's Book?" |
Claims made in "Postscript" (paperback only)
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Quoting Whelan: "[T]here still remains within the Church a limited form of plural marriage. Those husbands who have lost a beloved spouse and are left alone in this world can still be married for time and eternity to another wife....It is clear that all marriages continued in heaven will involve participation in plural marriage." |
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"[M]ore than a few Mormons, although they had never actually read my book, declared without hesitation that it was rife with errors." |
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441, n10 |
Boyd K. Packer said: "I have a hard time with historians because they idolize the truth." |
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442, n14 |
"Some of the harshest criticism I received from Mormons came from those who were irate over my depiction of Brigham Young....then I acquired a new book dealing with the issue—Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows by independent historian and Salt Lake Tribune columnist Will Bagley....This tremendously in-depth volume not only supported my perspective, but greatly expanded on my conclusions..." |
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"Bagley...demonstrated that...LDS leaders, including Young, probably had a hand in the planning and execution of the Mountain Meadows Massacre...Young likely entreated the Indians, albeit with great subtlety, to attack the Baker-Fancher company..." |
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Bagley, referring to a statement made by Quinn, said "The decision to do whatever was necessary to build the kingdom 'encouraged Mormons to consider it their religious right to kill antagonistic outsiders, common criminals, LDS apostates, and even faithful Mormons who committed sins worthy of death.'" |
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443 |
"Bagley also proved the charge often dismissed by faithful LDS church members that the Saints in 1857 refused to sell provisions to the Baker-Fancher wagon train." |
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443 |
"Blood of the Prophets once and for all dispelled the long-standing Mormon myth that members of the doomed company poisoned an important cattle stream, thereby almost deserving their fate." |
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443, 615n15 (PB) |
Bagley states "In their desire to exonerate Brigham Young of any guilt, official Mormon accounts of the crime laid the blame on victims and Indians, a tradition that is alive and well today." |
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443, 615n16-18 |
Brigham said "[W]hen a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, & thro' him in the River." |
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444-446, n23-24 |
Past LDS leaders held racist views. |
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446 |
"Of course, when any religion or denomination is tainted by the stain of racism, it always leaves future members in a very awkward position. And to be fair, Mormonism is not alone in this predicament. A number of Christian denominations (e.g. the Southern Baptists) have had to work very hard at racial reconciliation, often using public declarations to repudiate past racist statements by leaders." |
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Gordon B. Hinckley "admitted in April 2002 that Mormons do not believe in the same 'Jesus' revered throughout Christendom. According to Hinckley, Christendom's concept of Christ comes not from the Bible, but from corrupt traditions of men....The LDS concept of God, instead, comes from Smith's alleged 1820 vision." |
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448, 616n34 |
Dallin Oaks told Mormons in 1995 "that so-called Christianity sees God as an entirely different kind of being." |
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