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===Claims made in Chapter 16: The Priesthood=== | ===Claims made in Chapter 16: The Priesthood=== | ||
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*The concept of "priesthood" was added later to the Church and was a creation of Sidney Rigdon. | |||
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* {{SecondaryFact}}: how does Whitmer know? Why did he say nothing about it at the time? | * {{SecondaryFact}}: how does Whitmer know? Why did he say nothing about it at the time? | ||
* {{MindReading}}: How do the Tanners or Whitmer know what Sidney talked Joseph into doing? | * {{MindReading}}: How do the Tanners or Whitmer know what Sidney talked Joseph into doing? | ||
* The scanty evidence for this claim will require the Tanners to simply repeat it in a few pages (see [[#445-446|p. 445-446]]). | * The scanty evidence for this claim will require the Tanners to simply repeat it in a few pages (see [[#445-446|p. 445-446]]). | ||
* [[Priesthood | * [[Priesthood/Restoration]] | ||
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*David Whitmer, ''An Address To All Believers In Christ'', p.64. | *David Whitmer, ''An Address To All Believers In Christ'', p.64. | ||
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====443==== | ====443==== | ||
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* Revelations on the restoration of the priesthood are not present in the Book of Commandments. | * Revelations on the restoration of the priesthood are not present in the Book of Commandments. | ||
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* [[Date | * [[Priesthood/Restoration/Melchizedek/Date]] | ||
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* No source provided? {{attn}} | * No source provided? {{attn}} | ||
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====443-444==== | ====443-444==== | ||
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* The Aaronic priesthood was abolished at that death of Christ. | |claim= | ||
| | *The Aaronic priesthood was abolished at that death of Christ. | ||
* [[Hebrews 7 | |response= | ||
| | * [[Priesthood/Restoration/Aaronic/Hebrews 7]] | ||
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*{{s||Hebrews|7|11-14}} | *{{s||Hebrews|7|11-14}} | ||
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====445==== | ====445==== | ||
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*The date of the restoration of the Melchizedik Priesthood is not known and the record of the event was added later. | |||
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* {{Absurd}}: If Joseph was making the story up, why not just pick a date and stick to it? The uncertainty of dates is typical of real world events; any one clever enough to "fake" the restoration and organization of the Church could certainly pick a date off the top of his head. Who could argue with him? | * {{Absurd}}: If Joseph was making the story up, why not just pick a date and stick to it? The uncertainty of dates is typical of real world events; any one clever enough to "fake" the restoration and organization of the Church could certainly pick a date off the top of his head. Who could argue with him? | ||
* {{SourceDistortion}}: the cited source (''History of the Church'') does not, of course, say a thing about the priesthood restoration being fraudulent or a later invention. | * {{SourceDistortion}}: the cited source (''History of the Church'') does not, of course, say a thing about the priesthood restoration being fraudulent or a later invention. | ||
*[[Date | *[[Priesthood/Restoration/Melchizedek/Date]] | ||
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*''History of the Church'' 1:40, footnote | *''History of the Church'' 1:40, footnote | ||
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====445-446==== | ====445-446==== | ||
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* The idea of the Melchizedek Priesthood and ordaining men to be High Priests came from Sidney Rigdon. | |claim= | ||
| | *The idea of the Melchizedek Priesthood and ordaining men to be High Priests came from Sidney Rigdon. | ||
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* {{MindReading}}: Making the same claim twice makes it no more convincing (see [[#442|p. 442]]). | * {{MindReading}}: Making the same claim twice makes it no more convincing (see [[#442|p. 442]]). | ||
* [[Priesthood | * [[Priesthood/Restoration]] | ||
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*Whitmer, ''An Address To All Believers In Christ'', p.35, 62-63 | *Whitmer, ''An Address To All Believers In Christ'', p.35, 62-63 | ||
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Claims made in Chapter 16: The Priesthood
442
Claim
- The concept of "priesthood" was added later to the Church and was a creation of Sidney Rigdon.
Author's source(s)
- David Whitmer, An Address To All Believers In Christ, p.64.
Response
- Quotes another author's opinion as if it were fact: how does Whitmer know? Why did he say nothing about it at the time?
- Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.: How do the Tanners or Whitmer know what Sidney talked Joseph into doing?
- The scanty evidence for this claim will require the Tanners to simply repeat it in a few pages (see p. 445-446).
- Priesthood/Restoration
443
Claim
- Revelations on the restoration of the priesthood are not present in the Book of Commandments.
Author's source(s)
- No source provided? [ATTENTION!]
Response
443-444
Claim
- The Aaronic priesthood was abolished at that death of Christ.
Author's source(s)
Response
445
Claim
- The date of the restoration of the Melchizedik Priesthood is not known and the record of the event was added later.
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church 1:40, footnote
Response
- Absurd claim: If Joseph was making the story up, why not just pick a date and stick to it? The uncertainty of dates is typical of real world events; any one clever enough to "fake" the restoration and organization of the Church could certainly pick a date off the top of his head. Who could argue with him?
- Misrepresentation of source: the cited source (History of the Church) does not, of course, say a thing about the priesthood restoration being fraudulent or a later invention.
- Priesthood/Restoration/Melchizedek/Date
445-446
Claim
- The idea of the Melchizedek Priesthood and ordaining men to be High Priests came from Sidney Rigdon.
Author's source(s)
- Whitmer, An Address To All Believers In Christ, p.35, 62-63
Response
- Mind reading: author has no way of knowing this.: Making the same claim twice makes it no more convincing (see p. 442).
- Priesthood/Restoration