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| Chapter 16 | A FAIR Analysis of: Criticism of Mormonism/Books A work by author: Jerald and Sandra Tanner
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Chapter 18 |
Claims made in Chapter 17: Joseph Smith
448
Claim
- No man can enter the Celestial Kingdom without Joseph Smith's consent.
Author's source(s)
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 7:289.
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 3:212.
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:176.
Response
- Prejudicial or loaded language: No one from first century Palestine can enter the kingdom without the consent of Jesus' apostles; thus Christ too appoints modern apostles (like Joseph) to play a role in judgment.
- Double standard: Do the Tanners reject the idea that Peter, James, John, and the rest of the Twelve will help judge Israel? If not, then why is the idea for a modern apostle treated as so absurd?
- Joseph Smith/Status in LDS belief
448
Claim
- Joseph Smith would be looked upon as a god.
Author's source(s)
- Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88.
Response
- Misrepresentation of source: The cited material nowhere says Joseph will be "looked upon as a god."
- See Quote mining—Journal of Discourses 5:88 to see how this quote was mined.
- Joseph Smith/Status in LDS belief
450
Claim
- Church members elevate Joseph Smith almost to the level of Jesus Christ.
Author's source(s)
- Tiffany's Monthly in 1859, p.170
Response
- Absurd claim: A popular magazine from 1859 is the authors' best support for this claim?
- Joseph Smith/Status in LDS belief
451-452
Claim
- Joseph Smith liked to fight?
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church 5:316, 524, 531
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:317-318.
Response
- Presentism or anachronism
- Joseph Smith/Personality and temperament
452-454
Claim
- Joseph Smith liked military trappings and titles.
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church 4:382; 5:3; 6:282, 227
Response
- Joseph, like many of his era, liked the pomp and spectacle of marching and military regalia. This is no crime or sin—Joseph did not relish war, and always tended to conciliation.
- Latter-day Saints do not, in any case, believe in perfect or unflawed prophets. Joseph described himself as "a man of like passions with yourselves."[1] Only critics like the Tanner make him into a paragon or god.
456-457
Claim
- Joseph Smith was ordained "King on earth" by the Council of Fifty.
Author's source(s)
- Klaus J. Hansen, Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Summer 1966, page 104.
- Brigham Young University Studies, Winter 1968, pp.212-13. off-site
- Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1945), 356. ( Index of claims )
- Kenneth W. Godfrey, Causes of Mormon Non-Mormon Conflict in Hancock County, Illinois, 1839-1846, Ph.D. dissertation, BYU, 1967, pp.63-65"
Response
- Misrepresentation of source: As is often the case, the Tanners' sources do not exactly support them:
- Godfrey's 1967 thesis discusses Joseph's ordination, but notes that this is "over the house of Israel," and cautions that "the general public probably misunderstood the Prophet and his role in relation to the Council of Fifty....It appears evident that his concept of the Kingdom of God was an ideal, a utopia, a goal to be worked for and achieved some time in the future. The Prophet was not going to establish The Kingdom of God by the sword but with love and gentle persuasion" (65-66).
- Godfrey's BYU Studies (1968) article is similar: "Antagonism toward the Mormon Prophet was further incited when it was correctly rumored, that he had been ordained “King over the Immediate House of Israel” by the Council of Fifty. This action was wrongly interpreted by non-Mormons to mean that he was going to attempt to overthrow the United States government by force. In reality the Prophet was establishing a political organization that would remain in effect in a state of limbo until commanded by Christ to function as an aid in ushering in the millennial reign of the King of Kings."
- Hansen's article says only that Joseph is made "king over that organization [the Council of Fifty]," not "on earth."
- We are left, then, only with Brodie's cynical (and equally distorted) view of the matter. The Tanners provide the illusion of balance and documentation, and provide nothing of the sort.
- The Council of Fifty
458
Claim
- Joseph Smith ran for president because he thought that he could win and rule as king over the United States.
Author's source(s)
- Hansen, Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn 1966, p.67
Response
- Misrepresentation of source: yet again, the Tanners' citation does not support their claim. Hansen's article reads, in part:
- The Gentiles, who could be quite as literal-minded as the Saints, therefore believed that the Mormon kingdom, like Mohammed's, was to conquer the world by fire and sword. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth. Joseph Smith insisted emphatically that the Kingdom was to be ushered in through peaceful means....[Joseph] seems to have realized that a temporal kingdom of God in an area surrounded by Gentiles faced at best a precarious future. But what if, through a bold stroke, he could capture the United States for the Kingdom? The Council of Fifty thought there might be a chance and nominated the Mormon prophet for the Presidency of the United States....Still, the Mormon prophet was realistic enough not to stake the entire future of the Kingdom of God on this plan.
460
Claim
- Joseph Smith felt that he was "almost equal with God" and that God was his "right hand man."
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church 5:289, 467; 6:78, 408-409
Response
- Misrepresentation of source: God his "right hand man"?
460
Claim
- Joseph boasted that he was the only one who kept a whole church together.
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church 6:408-409
Response
462-463
Claim
- The destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor was illegal.
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church, vol. 6, p.xxxviii
Response
465
Claim
- Joseph fought his attackers at Carthage using a six-shooter.
Author's source(s)
- [ATTENTION!]
Response
- History unclear or in error: Joseph returned fire with a pistol when he and his three friends were attacked by 200 men armed with rifles. Joseph fired no shot until his brother had been shot in the face and killed. Three of Joseph's shots misfired; he killed no one.
- Joseph Smith/Martyrdom
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Notes
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- [note] William Clayton to the Saints at Manchester, 10 Dec. 1840, Clayton Papers; cited in James B. Allen, Trials of Discipleship: The Story of William Clayton, a Mormon (Urbana and Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1987), 69. ISBN 0252013697.