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1.5 Claim
- Did Brigham Young actually say that Joseph Smith's character "was easily on par with Jesus Christ's?"
1.6 Claim
- Is Joseph Smith considered as important to Latter-day Saints' spirituality as Jesus Christ?"
- Did Levi Edgar Young say that the "grandeur of Joseph Smith's life" was "the all-important truth that the world needed to hear" and that "thousands would turn not to God, but to Joseph."
1.7 Claim
- Did Brigham Young "twist" John 4:3 in order to apply it to Joseph?
1.8 Claim
- Did Joseph suffer from narcissism?
1.9 Claim
- Why did Hezekiah McKune, Sophia Lewis and Levi Lewis state that Joseph claimed that he was "nearly equal to" or "as good as" Jesus Christ.
1.10 Claim
- Why did Joseph Smith state: "I am the only man that has been able to keep the whole church together....Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it?"
1.11 Claim
- Was Joseph boasting of violence when he claimed: "I wrestled with William Wall, the most expert wrestler in Ramus, and threw him?"
1.12 Claim
- Did Joseph boast of his fighting skill and his strength when he said: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."
1.13 Claim
- Did Jedediah Grant say that Joseph hit a Baptist preacher and and then throw him to the ground so violently that he "whirled round a few times, like a duck shot in the head?"
1.14 Claim
- Were the commissioned officers in the Nauvoo Legion were granted "law-making powers?"
1.15 Claim
- Was the Nauvoo Legion simply a "resurrection" of the Danites?
1.16 Claim
Author's quote: "Where were all those rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence?"
1.17 Question: What was the Council of Fifty?
1.18 Claim
- Did the Council of Fifty ordain Joseph to be "King and Ruler over Israel?"
1.19 Claim
- Did Latter-day Saints believe that "the only acceptable government" would have to be in the form of a global theocracy?
- Didn't Joseph say "It has been the design of Jehovah, from the commencement of the world, and is his purpose now, to regulate the affairs of the world...to stand as head of the universe, and take the reigns of government into his own hands?"
1.20 Claim
- Was Josephs crowned "king of the world?"
1.21 Claim
- Did Joseph send Orrin Porter Rockwell to kill ex-Governor Boggs?
1.22 Claim
- Does D&C 98:31 justify the murder of personal enemies?
1.23 Claim
- Did Porter Rockwell admit that he had tried to kill Boggs?
1.24 Claim
- Did Joseph Smith escape both times after he was arrested twice for his alleged role in Boggs' assasination attempt?
1.25 Claim
- Author's quote: "Not until 1841 in Nauvoo...was Smith's seemingly insatiable lust for women and young girls unleashed."
1.26 Claim
- Did Joseph Smith advocate the practice of polyandry?
1.27 Claim
- Author's quote: "[T]he wives continued to live with their husbands after marrying Smith, but would have conjugal visits from Joseph whenever it served his needs."
1.28 Claim
- Were Heber and his wife Vilate Kimball "too devoted" to each other for Joseph Smith's taste?
1.29 Claim
- Did Joseph violate a Biblical prohibition on marrying a mother and daughter or two sisters?
1.30 Claim
- Did Joseph denounce polygamy as sinful and state that "monogamy was God's perfect design?"
1.31 Claim
- Author's quote: "Apostates...preached against the evils thriving in Joseph's city of debauchery and despotism."
1.32 Claim
- Did Joseph destroy the Nauvoo Expositor because his "entire plan to rule the world" was about to be exposed?
1.33 Claim
- The Nauvoo Expositor told of women who "under penalty of death," were told that they were to be sealed to him as "spiritual wives."
1.34 Claim
- Did Joseph decide not to flee to Iowa because of 1) guilt for leaving, 2) he wouldn't be safe in Iowa, 3) there was no leadership left in Nauvoo and 4) the Nauvoo Legion was divided?
1.35 Claim
- Since Joseph wrote to Emma and said that he was "much resigned to my lot," why did he write a note to Jonathan Dunham telling him to bring the Nauvoo Legion and "break the jail, and save him at all costs?"
1.36 Claim
- Is it true that Dunham never brought the Nauvoo Legion because "[p]erhaps he was secretly dissatisfied with Smith's leadership?"
1.37 Claim
- Is it true, as Brodie claims, that nobody in Nauvoo other than Jonathan Dunham "knew of the prophet's peril?"
1.38 Claim
- There is no mention of the fact that the Carthage Greys, who were supposed to be guarding the prisoners, allowed the mob entry.
1.39 Claim
- Is it true that Joseph had been "smuggled a six-shooter?"
1.40
Response to claims made in "Chapter 9: March to Martyrdom"
...intellectual reasoning and logical thought never had played more than a minor role in their belief system.
—One Nation Under Gods, p. 172
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171 epigraph, 542n1 (HB) 540n1 (PB)
Claim
"I combat the errors of the ages;...I solve mathematical problems of universities, with truth—diamond truth; and God is my 'right hand man.'...[God] will make me be God to you in his stead,...and if you don't like it, you must lump it....I have more to boast of than ever any man had....I boast that no man ever did such a work as I."
Joseph Smith
History of the Church, 1844
"I combat the errors of the ages;...I solve mathematical problems of universities, with truth—diamond truth; and God is my "right hand man" [1843]. God made Aaron to be the mouth piece for the children of Israel, and He will make me be god to you in His stead [1844]. I have more to boast of than ever any man had....I boast that no man ever did such a work as I [1844]."
Joseph Smith
History of the Church
Author's source(s)
Response
172
Claim
- Author's quote: "...for Joseph, his followers were more than willing to accept any excuse he might give them...intellectual reasoning and logical thought never had played more than a minor role in their belief system."
Author's source(s)
Response
173
Claim
- Did Joseph set himself up as "Zion's dictator" in Christ's place until His second coming?
Author's source(s)
Response
174, 541n17 (PB)
Claim
- Did Brigham Young actually say that Joseph Smith's character "was easily on par with Jesus Christ's?"
Author's source(s)
Response
175, 543n21 (HB) 541n21 (PB)
Claim
- Is Joseph Smith considered as important to Latter-day Saints' spirituality as Jesus Christ?"
- Did Levi Edgar Young say that the "grandeur of Joseph Smith's life" was "the all-important truth that the world needed to hear" and that "thousands would turn not to God, but to Joseph."
Author's source(s)
- 21. Levi Edgar Young, letter dated April 14, 1961. Quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner, Mormonism—Shadow or Reality?, 5th edition, (Salt Lake City: Utah Lighthouse Ministry, 1987), 252.
Response
175, 541n23 (PB)
Claim
- Did Brigham Young "twist" John 4:3 in order to apply it to Joseph?
Author's source(s)
Response
175, 542n24 (PB)
Claim
- Did Joseph suffer from narcissism?
Author's source(s)
- Robert D. Anderson, Inside the Mind of Joseph Smith: Psychobiography and the Book of Mormon, xxxix, 222-242.
Response
176, 542n26-28 (PB)
Claim
- Why did Hezekiah McKune, Sophia Lewis and Levi Lewis state that Joseph claimed that he was "nearly equal to" or "as good as" Jesus Christ.
Author's source(s)
Response
- Interestingly enough, Hezekiah M'Kune, Levi Lewis and Sophia Lewis went together to make their depositions before the justice. Their testimonies bear a remarkable similarity and contain the unique claim that Joseph claimed to be "as good as Jesus Christ." This claim is not related by any other individuals who knew the Prophet, suggesting that these three individuals planned and coordinated their story before giving their depositions. [1]
- The Hurlbut affidavits—Hezekiah M'Kune
- The Hurlbut affidavits—Sophia Lewis
- The Hurlbut affidavits—Levi Lewis
177, 544n29 (HB) 542n29 (PB)
Claim
- Why did Joseph Smith state: "I am the only man that has been able to keep the whole church together....Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it?"
Author's source(s)
Response
178, 544n34 (HB) 542n34 (PB)
Claim
- Was Joseph boasting of violence when he claimed: "I wrestled with William Wall, the most expert wrestler in Ramus, and threw him?"
Author's source(s)
Response
179, 544n36 (HB) 542n36 (PB)
Claim
- Did Joseph boast of his fighting skill and his strength when he said: "I feel as strong as a giant....I pulled up with one hand the strongest man that could be found. Then two men tried, but they could not pull me up."
Author's source(s)
- History of the Church, vol. 5, 466.
Response
178, 544n39 (HB) 542n39 (PB)
Claim
- Did Jedediah Grant say that Joseph hit a Baptist preacher and and then throw him to the ground so violently that he "whirled round a few times, like a duck shot in the head?"
Author's source(s)
Response
- The author's claim is false: Use of sources: Joseph hit a baptist preacher
- Misrepresentation of source: Note that Joseph challenged the preacher to a wrestling match, which shocked the sanctimonious man—the "duck shot in the head" does not describe the result of a blow, but is a colorful simile describing how shocked the preacher was at Joseph's remark.
181-182
Claim
- Were the commissioned officers in the Nauvoo Legion were granted "law-making powers?"
Author's source(s)
Response
- The author's source is unclear. Some officers in the Legion were also civic lawmakers (e.g., mayor, councilors, alderman, etc.) but it is not clear what lawmaking powers the author is claiming for militia officers as such.
182, 542n46
Claim
- Was the Nauvoo Legion simply a "resurrection" of the Danites?
Author's source(s)
- Hosea Stout, On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout, Juanita Brooks, ed., vol. 1, 140-141, 197, 259.
Response
- In what ways? In what ways were they different?
- The militia was organized with the sanction of the Illinois legislature, the state supplied arms, and its officers received commissions from the state. [2]
183
Claim
Author's quote: "Where were all those rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence?"
Author's source(s)
Response
- History unclear or in error: One would assume that the author probably meant to say the "Constitution" or the "Bill of Rights."
186-187, 544n70 (PB) - Did Joseph set up a "shadow-government" called the "Council of Fifty"?
The author(s) of One Nation Under Gods make(s) the following claim:
Did Joseph set up a "shadow-government" called the "Council of Fifty" for the purpose of organizing the "political kingdom of God in preparation for the second coming of Christ?"Author's sources: Woodruff, in Kenny, under March 11, 1844, vol. 2, 366.
FAIR's Response
Question: What was the Council of Fifty?
Joseph Smith received a revelation which called for the organization of a special council
On 7 April 1842, Joseph Smith received a revelation titled "The Kingdom of God and His Laws, With the Keys and Power Thereof, and Judgment in the Hands of His Servants, Ahman Christ," which called the for the organization of a special council separate from, but parallel to, the Church. Since its inception, this organization has been generally been referred to as "the Council of Fifty" because of its approximate number of members.
The Council of Fifty was designed to serve as something of a preparatory legislature in the Kingdom of God
Latter-day Saints believe that one reason the gospel was restored was to prepare the earth for the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Just as the Church was to bring about religious changes in the world, the Council of Fifty was intended to bring a political transformation. It was therefore designed to serve as something of a preparatory legislature in the Kingdom of God. Joseph Smith ordained the council to be the governing body of the world, with himself as chairman, Prophet, Priest, and King over the Council and the world (subject to Jesus Christ, who is "King of kings"[3]).
The Council was organized on 11 March 1844, at which time it adopted rules of procedure, including those governing legislation. One rule included instructions for passing motions:
To pass, a motion must be unanimous in the affirmative. Voting is done after the ancient order: each person voting in turn from the oldest to the youngest member of the Council, commencing with the standing chairman. If any member has any objections he is under covenant to fully and freely make them known to the Council. But if he cannot be convinced of the rightness of the course pursued by the Council he must either yield or withdraw membership in the Council. Thus a man will lose his place in the Council if he refuses to act in accordance with righteous principles in the deliberations of the Council. After action is taken and a motion accepted, no fault will be found or change sought for in regard to the motion.[4]
What is interesting about this rule is that it required each council member, by covenant, to voice his objections to proposed legislation. Those council members who dissented and could not be convinced to change their minds were to withdraw from the council, however, they would suffer no repercussions by doing so. Thus, full freedom of conscience was maintained by the council — not exactly the sort of actions a despot or tyrant would allow.
The Council never rose to the stature Joseph intended
Members (which included individuals that were not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) were sent on expeditions west to explore emigration routes for the Saints, lobbied the American government, and were involved in Joseph Smith's presidential campaign. But only three months after it was established, Joseph was killed, and his death was the beginning of the Council's end. Brigham Young used it as the Saints moved west and settled in the Great Basin, and it met annually during John Taylor's administration, but since that time the Council has not played an active role among the Latter-day Saints.
188, 544n78
Claim
- Did the Council of Fifty ordain Joseph to be "King and Ruler over Israel?"
Author's source(s)
- John Taylor, "A Revelation on the Kingdom of God in the Last Days given through President John Taylor at Salt Lake City," June 27, 1882, reprinted in Fred C. Coliier, ed., Unpublished Revelations, vol. 1, 133.
Response
189, 545n83
Claim
- Did Latter-day Saints believe that "the only acceptable government" would have to be in the form of a global theocracy?
- Didn't Joseph say "It has been the design of Jehovah, from the commencement of the world, and is his purpose now, to regulate the affairs of the world...to stand as head of the universe, and take the reigns of government into his own hands?"
Author's source(s)
- Joseph Smith, "The Government of God," Times and Seasons 3 no. 18 (July 15, 1842), 856-857. off-site GospeLink
Response
189
Claim
- Was Josephs crowned "king of the world?"
Author's source(s)
Response
191
Claim
- Did Joseph send Orrin Porter Rockwell to kill ex-Governor Boggs?
Author's source(s)
Response
- Joseph denied the charge (History of the Church 5:15).
- Rockwell was tried in Missouri and acquitted. [5]
- Monte B. McLaws, "The Attempted Assassination of Missouri's Ex-Governor, Lilburn W. Boggs," Missouri Historical Review LX (October 1965), 50-62 examined the evidence and found it insufficient to assign blame to anyone.
- This is the fallacy of probability
191
Claim
- Does D&C 98:31 justify the murder of personal enemies?
Author's source(s)
Response
192, 546n98 (PB)
Claim
- Did Porter Rockwell admit that he had tried to kill Boggs?
Author's source(s)
- Orrin Porter Rockwell. Quoted in Harold Schindler, Orrin Porter Rockwell, Man of God, Son of Thunder, 80.
- Richard S. Van Wagoner and Steven C. Walker, A Book of Mormons, 250.
Response
192, 546n99 (PB)
Claim
- Did Joseph Smith escape both times after he was arrested twice for his alleged role in Boggs' assasination attempt?
Author's source(s)
- Hallwas and Launius, Cultures in Conflict, 88-89.
Response
- History unclear or in error
- In the first instance, Joseph was arrested by Missourians, and then released since he had been served an illegal warrant— it charged that he had fled Missouri after committing the crime, an impossibility. [6]
- In the second case, Joseph submitted to arrest and the governor, a probate judge, the U.S. District Attorney for Illinois, and the Illinois Supreme Court found that the arrest warrant from Missouri was illegal. [7]
- Joseph "escaped" through due process of law; in both cases the warrant was illegal; in the second case, it was so declared by the governor and state supreme court.
- Criticism of Mormonism/Books/Loaded and prejudicial language
192
Claim
- Author's quote: "Not until 1841 in Nauvoo...was Smith's seemingly insatiable lust for women and young girls unleashed."
Author's source(s)
Response
193
Claim
- Did Joseph Smith advocate the practice of polyandry?
Author's source(s)
Response
193
Claim
- Author's quote: "[T]he wives continued to live with their husbands after marrying Smith, but would have conjugal visits from Joseph whenever it served his needs."
Author's source(s)
- No source provided. Author's opinion.
Response
194, 546n107
Claim
- Were Heber and his wife Vilate Kimball "too devoted" to each other for Joseph Smith's taste?
Author's source(s)
Response
194
Claim
- Did Joseph violate a Biblical prohibition on marrying a mother and daughter or two sisters?
Author's source(s)
Response
- The author cannot make up his mind. First, he tells us that there is no Biblical approval or command to practice plural marriage (see p. 305, (PB)). This claim is false, since levirate marriage is commanded by the Bible (Deuteronomy 25:5-6), and laws are given about the proper care of plural wives (Deuteronomy 21:15-17).
- Now, the author wishes to make Joseph bound by the marital codes of the Law of Moses. There are many other Law of Moses principles which Joseph did not keep either—but, neither does the author. A key tenet of Christianity is that the Law of Moses is no longer binding (e.g., Acts 15:20,29).
- Joseph did not claim to practice plural marriage under biblical authority (Old Testament or otherwise), but on the basis of new revelation. He and his followers used the Old Testament as evidence that God did not always forbid plural marriage, but this is a different matter from believing they were re-enacting the Law of Moses' polygamy on the Bible's authority alone.
195, 547n117 (PB)
Claim
- Did Joseph denounce polygamy as sinful and state that "monogamy was God's perfect design?"
Author's source(s)
- Times and Seasons, March 15, 1843, vol. 4, no. 9, 143.
Response
- Misrepresentation of source: The cited source says nothing about polygamy being "sinful" or stating the "monogamy was God's perfect design for marital relationships."
- The citation included by the author is a portion of a reprint in the T&S of a letter to the editor written by someone with the initials "H.R." and submitted to the Boston Bee:
We are charged with advocating a plurality of wives, and common property. Now this is as false as the many other ridiculous charges which are brought against us. No sect have a greater reverence for the laws of matrimony, or the rights of private property, and we do what others do not, practice what we preach.
196, 549n119 (HB) 547n119 (PB)
Claim
- Author's quote: "Apostates...preached against the evils thriving in Joseph's city of debauchery and despotism."
Author's source(s)
Response
197, 547n122 (PB)
Claim
- Did Joseph destroy the Nauvoo Expositor because his "entire plan to rule the world" was about to be exposed?
Author's source(s)
- Clayton, see Robert C. Fillerup, under June 22, 1844, in "Nauvoo Temple History Journal, William Clayton, 1845,".
- Andrew F. Ehat, "'It Seems Like Heaven Began On Earth': Joseph Smith and the Constitution of the Kingdom of God," Brigham Young University Studies 20 (Spring 1980), 268.
Response
197, 547n124 (PB)
Claim
- The Nauvoo Expositor told of women who "under penalty of death," were told that they were to be sealed to him as "spiritual wives."
Author's source(s)
Response
198
Claim
- Did Joseph decide not to flee to Iowa because of 1) guilt for leaving, 2) he wouldn't be safe in Iowa, 3) there was no leadership left in Nauvoo and 4) the Nauvoo Legion was divided?
Author's source(s)
Response
- History unclear or in error: The book does not acknowledge contemporary records of what was done and said to influence Joseph's return to Nauvoo, and what he himself said about it:
- Here is Fawn Brodie's opinion:
"But the river was only one factor in Joseph's gloom. He was landing in Iowa, where there was still a price on his head. The Governor of the Iowa Territory had never agreed not to extradite him to Missouri on the old charge of treason. Moreover, Joseph had neither equipment nor appetite for the lonely and savage western trails. And he could not stifle a sense of guilt at deserting his people..." (Brodie, No Man Knows My History p. 384)
199, 547-548n131-132 (PB)
Claim
- Since Joseph wrote to Emma and said that he was "much resigned to my lot," why did he write a note to Jonathan Dunham telling him to bring the Nauvoo Legion and "break the jail, and save him at all costs?"
Author's source(s)
Response
199, 548n133 (PB)
Claim
- Is it true that Dunham never brought the Nauvoo Legion because "[p]erhaps he was secretly dissatisfied with Smith's leadership?"
Author's source(s)
Response
199, 548n133
Claim
- Is it true, as Brodie claims, that nobody in Nauvoo other than Jonathan Dunham "knew of the prophet's peril?"
Author's source(s)
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199
Claim
- There is no mention of the fact that the Carthage Greys, who were supposed to be guarding the prisoners, allowed the mob entry.
Author's source(s)
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199
Claim
- Is it true that Joseph had been "smuggled a six-shooter?"
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Notes
- ↑ Hugh W. Nibley, Tinkling Cymbals and Sounding Brass: The Art of Telling Tales About Joseph Smith and Brigham Young (Vol. 11 of the Collected Works of Hugh Nibley), edited by David J. Whittaker, (Salt Lake City, Utah : Deseret Book Company ; Provo, Utah : Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, 1991), 128. ISBN 0875795161. GL direct link
- ↑ James B. Allen and Glen M. Leonard, Story of the Latter-day Saints, 2nd edition revised and enlarged, (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1992[1976]), 168–169. ISBN 087579565X. GospeLink
- ↑ See 1 Timothy 6:15; Revelation 17:14; 19:16
- ↑ Andrew F. Ehat, "'It Seems Like Heaven Began on Earth': Joseph Smith and the Constitution of the Kingdom of God," Brigham Young University Studies 20 no. 3 (1980), 260-61.
- ↑ Richard L. Bushman, Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling (New York: Knopf, 2005), 468–469.
- ↑ See: Joseph Smith, History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7 volumes, edited by Brigham H. Roberts, (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1957), 5:86–87. Volume 5 link Brigham H. Roberts, Comprehensive History of the Church (Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University Press, 1965), 2:150. GospeLink Edwin Brown Firmage and Richard Collin Mangrum, Zion in the Courts : a Legal History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1830–1900 (Urbana and Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1988), 97. ISBN 0252069803.
- ↑ See: Joseph Smith, History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7 volumes, edited by Brigham H. Roberts, (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1957), 5:179, 205–231. 205–231 Volume 5 link Edwin Brown Firmage and Richard Collin Mangrum, Zion in the Courts : a Legal History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1830–1900 (Urbana and Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1988), 100. ISBN 0252069803.