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- 1 Response to claims made in "Chapter 3: Changes in Revelations"
- 1.3 Claim
- According to the authors, "Mormon apostle" John A. Widtsoe said that the revelations "have remained unchanged. There has been no tampering with God's word," and that Joseph Fielding Smith, the "tenth president," said that there was no need for "there was no need for eliminating, changing, or adjusting any part to make it fit; but each new revelation on doctrine and priesthood fitted in its place perfectly to complete the whole structure, as it had been prepared by the Master Builder"
- David Whitmer said that the revelations in the Book of Commandments were printed correctly and didn't need to be modified later.
- David Whitmer objected to changing the revelations.
- D&C 68 was changed from its original printing in the Evening and Morning Star.
- It is claimed that Joseph Smith was not supposed to do any translating beyond the Book of Mormon, as shown in Book of Commandments 4:2, which was changed in D&C 5:4.
- Joseph Smith claimed to have translated a parchment written by the Apostle John. According to the authors, LDS writers cannot explain why this revelation was changed.
- The name "Urim and Thummim" was added to the revelations later.
- The United Order was simply a form of Communism.
- The United Order was claimed to have actually been Sidney Rigdon's idea.
- The authors claim that "thousands of words which were added, deleted or changed in the revelations," including a section on marriage that was removed from the D&C.
- The Lectures on Faith were removed from the D&C.
- It is claimed that few LDS writers will "admit" to changes made in the D&C.
Response to claims made in "Chapter 3: Changes in Revelations"
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Claim
- According to the authors, "Mormon writers" have "admitted" that revelations have been modified after they have been received.
Author's source(s) - History of the Church, vol. 1, p.173
- John William Fitzgerald, "A Study of the Doctrine and Covenants," Master's thesis, BYU, 1940, p.329
- Melvin J. Petersen, "A Study of the Nature of and Significance of the Changes in the Revelations as Found in a Comparison of the Book of Commandments and Subsequent Editions of the Doctrine and Covenants," Master's thesis, BYU, 1955, typed copy, p.147
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Claim
- According to the authors, "Mormon apostle" John A. Widtsoe said that the revelations "have remained unchanged. There has been no tampering with God's word," and that Joseph Fielding Smith, the "tenth president," said that there was no need for "there was no need for eliminating, changing, or adjusting any part to make it fit; but each new revelation on doctrine and priesthood fitted in its place perfectly to complete the whole structure, as it had been prepared by the Master Builder"
Author's source(s) - John A. Widtsoe, Joseph Smith—Seeker After Truth, p.119
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 1:170.
- Doctrine and Covenants/Textual changes
- See Quote mining—Doctrines of Salvation 1:170 to see how this quote was mined.
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Claim
- David Whitmer said that the revelations in the Book of Commandments were printed correctly and didn't need to be modified later.
Author's source(s) - An Address to All Believers in Christ p. 56.
- Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints
- David Whitmer had fundamentalistic ideas about scripture, but these are not—and were not—binding on the Church.
- Were changes to the D&C hidden from the Church?
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Claim
- David Whitmer objected to changing the revelations.
Author's source(s) - Saints' Herald, Feb. 5, 1887
- Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints
- David Whitmer had fundamentalistic ideas about scripture, but these are not—and were not—binding on the Church.
- Were changes to the D&C hidden from the Church?
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Claim
- D&C 68 was changed from its original printing in the Evening and Morning Star.
Author's source(s) - The Evening and the Morning Star, October 1832
- Doctrine and Covenants—Sec. 68
- Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints
- Anyone interested in all the textual variants for all sections of the Doctrine and Covenants can see a BYU PhD thesis: Robert J. Woodford, The Historical Development of the Doctrine and Covenants, Ph.D. dissertation (3 volumes), Brigham Young University, 1974. (CD-ROM version from BYU Studies.) (Hard copy available from UMI Dissertation Express; order number 8027231.)
- Note that BYU Studies allows the purchase of a digital version. The Tanners wish to make this appear to be something hidden. The thesis was written half a decade before their volume.
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Claim
- It is claimed that Joseph Smith was not supposed to do any translating beyond the Book of Mormon, as shown in Book of Commandments 4:2, which was changed in D&C 5:4.
Author's source(s) - Book of Commandments 4:2; DC 5꞉4
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Claim
- Joseph Smith claimed to have translated a parchment written by the Apostle John. According to the authors, LDS writers cannot explain why this revelation was changed.
Author's source(s) - Book of Commandments 6; DC 7
- Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints
- Changes to "translation" in D&C 7?
- Doctrine and Covenants textual changes—Added material or expansions
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Claim
- The name "Urim and Thummim" was added to the revelations later.
Author's source(s) - Book of Commandments 9; DC 10꞉1-12
- "Urim and Thummim" was a biblical term which members adopted for seeing or revelatory instruments. When the revelations were republished, its use had become common among the Saints.
- The authors impose their own fundamentalist expectations on the Saints—Joseph and others made no secret that the revelations were edited, expanded, and clarified with reprintings.
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Claim
- The United Order was simply a form of Communism.
Author's source(s) - Book of Commandments 44; DC 42꞉24-36
- Prejudicial or loaded language
- The authors' source says nothing about the United Order being "communism." Since Marx and Engel's Communist Manifesto would not be published until 1848, this would be impossible.
- Some of the many differences between the United Order and Marxist Communism include:
- voluntary versus involuntary
- focused on God and Christ versus atheistic
- private ownership versus no private ownership
- Communism and the United Order
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Claim
- The United Order was claimed to have actually been Sidney Rigdon's idea.
Author's source(s) - Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1945), 108. ( Index of claims )
- The authors need to produce actual evidence. Did Sidney ever claim it was his idea, even when estranged from Joseph?
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Claim
- The authors claim that "thousands of words which were added, deleted or changed in the revelations," including a section on marriage that was removed from the D&C.
Author's source(s) - 1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants
- Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints
- Polygamy/1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy
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Claim
- The Lectures on Faith were removed from the D&C.
Author's source(s) - 1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants
- Author(s) impose(s) own fundamentalism on the Saints
- Doctrine and Covenants/Lectures on Faith removed
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Claim
- It is claimed that few LDS writers will "admit" to changes made in the D&C.
Author's source(s) - Authors' opinion.
- It is no surprise that there is no source for this claim—it is just unproven opinion.
- As noted for p. 43 above, a BYU PhD student had examined every change to the D&C in 1974, well before the Tanners wrote.
- Doctrine and Covenants textual changes—Changes were not hidden from the Church
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Claim
The name "Michael" was deleted from Joseph Smith's vision of the Celestial Kingdom because Adam is Michael.
Author's source(s)
- Joseph Smith's Diary, January 21, 1836, p.136; original in LDS historical department (reference with Michael)
- Deseret News, Church Section, April 3, 1976 (reference without Michael)
Response
- Joseph's diary entry for January 21, 1836:
heads, and attend to all duties that pertain to that office. I then took the seat, and father annoint[ed] my head, and sealed upon me the blessings, of Moses, to lead Israel in the latter days, even as moses led him in days of old, also the blessings of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. all of the presidency laid their hands upon me and pronounced upon my head many prophesies, and blessings, many of which I shall not notice at this time, but as Paul said, so say I, let us come to vissions and revelations, The heavens were opened upon us and I beheld the celestial Kingdom of God, and the glory thereof, whether in the body or out I cannot tell, I saw the transcendant beauty of the gate
that enters, through which the heirs of that Kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire, also the blasing throne of God, whereon was seated the Father and the Son, I saw the beautiful streets of that Kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold I saw father Adam, and Abraham and Michael and my father and mother, my brother Alvin that has long since slept, and marvled how it was that he had obtainedthisan inheritance in that Kingdom, seeing that he had departed this life, before the Lord had set his hand to gather Israel the second time and had not been baptised for the remission of sins Thussaidcame the voice of the Lord unto me saying all who have