User:GregSmith

"Somebody could walk into this room
And say your life is on fire.
It's all over the evening news,
All about the fire in your life on the evening news."

- Paul Simon, "Crazy Love, Vol. II," Graceland album (1986).

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 False claim

 Double standard

 Historical error or misrepresentation

 Self-contradiction—Remarks about it here

 Contradicts Book of Mormon

 Contradicts D&C

 Distortion of source

 Contradicts Joseph Smith

 Undercuts own argument—Remarks here

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Hypocrisy re: citations

Because his remarks are targeted at believing members of the Church of Jesus Christ, Snuffer cites three authors for whom he normally has little respect:

• Brigham Young
• Heber C. Kimball
• George A. Smith

Snuffer uses citations from each to argue that these Church leaders foretold a potential loss of priesthood authority by the Church:

To the same effect, during the Mormon Reformation Heber C. Kimball said: “We receive the priesthood and power and authority. If we make a bad use of the priesthood, so you not see that the day will come when God will reckon with us, and he will take it from us and give it to those who will make better use of it? (JD6: 125.) George A. Smith said, “God has set his hand at the present time to establish his kingdom. But unless the Saints will so live and so exert themselves that they can preserve the purity of the holy Priesthood among them, the work will be left to other people.” (JD 6: 161.) Even Brigham Young commented on the possibility that only an LDS remnant would remain to carry forward the work: “God will preserve a portion of the meek and the humble of this people to bear off the Kingdom to the inhabitants of the earth, and will defend His Priesthood; for it is the last time, the last gathering time; and He will not suffer the Priesthood to be again driven from the earth.” (JD 2: 184.)

But, why would Snuffer regard these authors as authoritative? He has made his disdain for them clear elsewhere.

Snuffer's attitude toward Brigham Young and other apostles

For example, he wrote of Brigham Young:

Murder was allowed [in Utah] but only when President Young thought it was needed for the salvation of the victim.

Snuffer also insists  (needs URL / links) that Brigham Young did not receive all of the keys which Joseph could have passed on.

George A. Smith and Heber C. Kimball were both apostles, and Snuffer denies that they were in a position to have the sealing power from Joseph which they claimed to hold. He claims too that they were not suited to be true apostles that could witness of Christ's resurrection.

In Snuffer's view, something vital was lost with Joseph's death, and Brigham and the rest of the apostles were mistaken to think that they had it. He regards Brigham Young as one who winked at murder, and further blames the second President of the Church for:

• instituting "coercive" programs
• "using 'blood atonement'...rhetoric [which] resulted in tragedy"
• "intimidat[ing] 'sinners'"
• sanctioning the extrajudicial murder of convicts
• "justify[ing] the elimination of an apostate" (the Parrish-Potter murders)
• causing the murder of the AIken party
• "institut[ing] the covenant in the temple ceremonies requiring all covenant-makers to swear to avenge the blood of Joseph and Hyrum Smith"
• using his authority to have "Dimick Huntington...[and] Hosea Stout...slaughter Indians"

Snuffer uses these claims (which are not explored in any detail, but only lightly touched on—presumably to shock the reader) to conclude that:

Although the gentile church was established by a Prophet upon whom the Lord conferred the fullness of the priesthood, the transfer of that fullness is more presumed in the accounts than proven....But subsequent events can help illustrate whether the prophesied gentile lyings, deceits, wickedness, abominations, murders and hypocrisy foretold by Christ have happened.

For Snuffer, then, Brigham's rule was a corrupt one marred by murder, violence, coercion, and hypocrisy: evidence that the Church did not retain what Joseph had started with. And, Heber C. Kimball and George A. Smith were either in the First Presidency or Quorum of the Twelve during this period.

It is strange, then, that Snuffer would cite them as authorities. How can such men be said to have the spirit of prophecy, or the spirit of the Lord to guide them or the Church?

It seems obvious that Snuffer cites them only because he thinks he can enlist their support for his theories. If Snuffer's stake president, on the other hand, had cited Brigham Young's witness that he had all the keys from Joseph, Snuffer would doubtless reject this witness: we have seen what he truly thinks of Brigham.