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Wikipedia Main Article: First Vision–How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented
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Wikipedia Footnotes: First Vision–Notes
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A FAIR Opinion
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The importance of the First Vision within the Latter Day Saint movement evolved over time. There is little evidence that Smith discussed the First Vision publicly prior to 1830.
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- "The earliest allusion, oral or written, to the first vision is the brief mention that was transcribed in June 1830 and originally printed in the Book of Commandments." Palmer, 235.
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- Correct, per cited sources
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Mormon historian James B. Allen notes that:
The fact that none of the available contemporary writings about Joseph Smith in the 1830s, none of the publications of the Church in that decade, and no contemporary journal or correspondence yet discovered mentions the story of the first vision is convincing evidence that at best it received only limited circulation in those early days.
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- James B. Allen, “The Significance of Joseph Smith's First Vision in Mormon Thought,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, 1 (Autumn 1966), 30. off-site
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- Citation abuse (Corrected)— The meaning of a source quotation was originally altered, but was later caught by other editors.
Violated by John "Foxe" —Diff: off-site Wiki editor "John Foxe" originally transcribed the quote from James B. Allen as follows:
"...none of the available contemporary writings about Joseph Smith in the 1830s, none of the Church publications in that decade and no contemporary journal or correspondence yet discovered mentions the story in convincing fashion." (emphasis added)
- When the altered text was noted by two LDS wiki editors, the quote was corrected and the missing portions were added. "Foxe" responded: "I apologize for what was almost certainly my transcription error. But I think if there's any change of meaning, it's trifling."--John Foxe 10:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC) off-site
- The meaning was indeed changed in the original transcription—it was written in a way that it made LDS scholar James B. Allen appear to say that he found none of the allusions to the First Vision convincing. In reality, he was stating that there is convincing evidence that it only received a limited circulation. One would expect history professors to check their quotes more thoroughly, and include enough of the quote to convey the proper context. This is inexcusable for an editor who teaches historical writing, quotes the "Chicago Manual of Style" and repeatedly claims that "truth is truth regardless of its origin." off-site
- This section also ignores that by the early 1830s, secular newspapers were reporting that Joseph claimed to have seen God:
- LDS missionaries were teaching that Joseph Smith had seen God "personally" and received a commission from Him to teach true religion (The Reflector, vol. 2, no. 13, 14 February 1831).
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Smith said that he made an oblique reference to the vision in 1820 to his mother, telling her the day it happened that he had "learned for [him]self that Presbyterianism is not true."
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- Correct, per cited sources
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Lucy did not mention this conversation in her memoirs.
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- Lucy Smith's Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith the Prophet, first published in Liverpool in 1853. EMD, 1: 227.
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- Correct, per cited sources
Lucy's 1845 draft mentions Moroni's visit without discussing the First Vision.
- References not included in the Wikipedia article
Lucy also mentioned Moroni's visit in a letter written in 1831 (well before her memoirs) which alluded to the events of the First Vision.
"Joseph, after repenting of his sins and humbling himself before God, was visited by an holy angel whose countenance was as lightning and whose garments were white above all whiteness, who gave unto him commandments which inspired him from on high; and who gave unto him, by the means of which was before prepared, that he should translate this book." (Lucy Smith letter, found in Benjamin E. Rich, ed., Scrapbook of Mormon Literature (Chicago: Henry C. Etten and Co., 1913), 1:543–46.) (emphasis added)
- An alternate argument used by critics is that in her 1831 letter, Lucy claimed that the First Vision was of an angel. The letter says absolutely nothing about Joseph Smith's encounter with the Book of Mormon "angel" being his FIRST spiritual manifestation.
- See: Prophet's mother said First Vision was of an "angel"
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In the oldest known account of the First Vision, Joseph Smith, Jr., said he "could find none that would believe" his experience.
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- From Joseph's 1832 account:
...but [I] could find none that would believe the hevnly vision nevertheless I pondered these things in my heart... off-site
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He said that shortly after the experience, he told the story of his revelation to a Methodist minister
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- According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820. "In the pursuit of his ministerial duties Rev. Lane was in the geographical proximity of Joseph Smith on a number of occasions between the years 1819-1825. The nature degree or indeed the actuality of their acquaintanceship during this interval poses a number of interesting possibilities... In July 1820 Lane would have had to pass through the greater Palmyra-Manchester vicinity..unless he went by an extremely circuitous route. Present records do not specify Lane's itinerary or exact route... but they do for Lane's friend, Rev. George Peck... [Peck's] conference route took him north to Ithaca, then on to a camp meeting in the Holland Purchase, subsequently passing along the Ridge Road to Rochester... As Rev. Peck, [Lane] may even have stopped at a camp meeting somewhere along the way. A preacher of his standing would always be a welcome guest." off-site Smith never mentions the name of the minister.
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- The reference is missing and the link to Larry Porter's article is broken. The correct reference and link are: Larry Porter, "Reverend George Lane—Good Gifts Much Grace and Marked Usefulness," BYU Studies, Vol. 9, No. 3 (1969) pp. 321-340. off-site
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None of Porter's citations are included in the wiki article. The more compelling material from the cited source is not included in the wiki article:
The presence of some 110 ministers and their bishop, Bishop R. R. Roberts at the Genesee Conference meetings representing
the New York, Pennsylvania and the Upper and Lower Canada districts must have created at least a moderate stir in the immediate neighborhood. [42] This places Reverend George Lane within a fifteen mile vicinity of Manchester attending the largest Methodist meeting of the year in Western New York among a great number of Methodist ministers at a time when Joseph Smith was aware of "an unusual excitement on the subject of religion" ("some time in the second year [1819] after our removal to Manchester").
Whether or not Joseph attended some of these meetings cannot be determined from any records presently available, but the opportunity cannot be denied—if only to sell confectioneries. [43] To think that the Smiths would not have heard of
the gathering is hardly believable.
[42]Minutes of the Annual Conference, 1819, pp. 50-52.
[43]Pomery Tucker, Origin, Rise, and Progress of Mormonism (Palmyra, 1867), p. 12.
- Although Joseph does not mention the name in his 1832 account, Oliver Cowdery's first installment of Joseph's history in 1834 does mention the name of the minister. Oliver stated when he began writing Joseph's history that he had records in his possession from Joseph himself. This would include his 1832 First Vision account. The following details are mentioned by Oliver, which are entirely consistent with the events described as leading up to the First Vision as described in the account that Joseph wrote four years later in 1838:
- "...I come to the 15th year of his life..."
- "...One Mr. Lane, a presiding Elder of the Methodist church, visited Palmyra, and vicinity. Elder Lane was a tallented [talented] man possessing a good share of literary endowments, and apparent humility."
- "There was a great awakening, or excitement raised on the subject of religion, and much enquiry for the word of life. Large additions were made to the Methodist, Presbyterian, and Baptist churches."
- "In this general strife for followers, his mother, one sister, and two of his natural brothers, were persuaded to unite with the Presbyterians."
- Source text is available here: Latter Day Saints' Messenger and Advocate/Volume 1/Number 3/LETTER III
- In the next installment of Oliver's history, he claimed that there had been a typographical error and that he would talk about Joseph's 17th year, bringing the date to 1823. He then proceeded to describe the visit of Moroni. For more detail on this, see Oliver Cowdery not aware of First Vision in 1834-35?
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who responded "with great contempt, saying it was all of the devil, that there was no such thing as visions or revelations in these days; that all such things had ceased with the apostles, and that there never would be any more of them."
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- Smith (1842c) , p. 748
- Roberts (1902)
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- An attempt was made to suppress a fact as "Mormon POV" A wiki editor attempted to suppress a fact from a primary source because he believes that it supports a "Mormon point-of-view."
Violated by John "Foxe" —Diff: [off-site off-site] It is interesting to note that an attempt was made by the evangelical editor John "Foxe" to remove this section, in which Joseph describes his interaction with a Methodist minister, as “unattested Mormon POV.”
- The word “unattested” means “not bearing the signature of a witness.” Although there is no witness to the conversation between Joseph and the minister, there is a witness that proves that Joseph related the story to others. The following entry from the “Alexander Neibaur Diary” (cited elsewhere in the article) recalls a conversation that Neibaur had with Joseph:
Mr. [Joseph] Smith then asked, "Must I join the Methodist Church?" "No, they are not my people. [They] have gone astray; there is none that doeth good, not one, but this is my Beloved Son, harken ye him." The fire drew nigher, rested upon the tree, enveloped him. Comforted, I endeavored to arise but felt uncommon feeble. [I] got into the house and told the Methodist priest [who] said this was not an age for God to reveal himself in vision. Revelation has ceased with the New Testament.
- The wiki author’s reason for attempting to remove Joseph’s statement was that “Smith claimed he spoke to a Methodist minister and said he got a reply that no Methodist minister would have given in 1820. That's simple Mormon apologetics because there's no independent confirmation of Smith's improbable story.”—John Foxe (10 September 2007). off-site
- This is an interesting attitude for this particular editor to take however, since Bob Jones University history professor John Matzko has documented that there was at least one Presybterian minister in the Palmyra area that did "not fit the stereotype." If a Presbyterian minister was in the area that did "not fit the stereotype," then how can one assume that there might not have been a Methodist minister who didn't fit the stereotype as well? [1]
- We fail to understand how simply repeating what Joseph said becomes "Mormon apologetics." It is a fact that Joseph made this statement.
- Although wiki editor John "Foxe" is indeed a professor of history, it is an exercise in mind reading to make an assumption regarding what reply a 19th-century Methodist minister “would have given” to a 14-year-old who had claimed to have seen a vision of God, and then impose that "fact" upon the wiki article.
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He also said that the telling of his vision story "excited a great deal of prejudice against me among professors of religion, and was the cause of great persecution, which continued to increase."
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There is no contemporary evidence for this persecution beyond Smith's testimony.
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- James B. Allen, “The Significance of Joseph Smith's First Vision in Mormon Thought,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, 1 (Autumn 1966), 30. [2] "According to Joseph Smith, he told the story of the vision immediately after it happened in the early spring of 1820. As a result, he said, he received immediate criticism in the community. There is little if any evidence, however, that by the early 1830's Joseph Smith was telling the story in public. At least if he were telling it, no one seemed to consider it important enough to have recorded it at the time, and no one was criticizing him for it."
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- The Wiki link is incomplete—the correct link is James B. Allen, “The Significance of Joseph Smith's First Vision in Mormon Thought,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, 1 (Autumn 1966), 30 off-site
- Insufficient Citation— The citation does not include sufficient material to make the author's meaning clear.
Violated by John "Foxe" —Diff: off-site It is deceptive to use Allen’s statement as support for the assertion that there is no evidence that Joseph was persecuted in the 1820’s for telling others about his vision. Whether or not contemporary evidence exists of persecution in the 1820s, Allen's statement cannot be used to support the idea. It should be noted that Allen is talking about the lack of persecution for the First Vision in the 1830’s, rather than denying that it could have occurred in 1820. Adding a few lines to what is quoted in the wiki article, this becomes clear:
…no one seemed to consider it important enough to have recorded it at the time, and no one was criticizing him for it. Not even in his own history did Joseph Smith mention being criticized in this period for telling the story of the first vision. The interest, rather, was in the Book of Mormon and the various angelic visitations connected with its origin…the young prophet said that he had been severely rebuffed the first time he told the story in 1820; and since it represented one of his most profound spiritual experiences, he could well have decided to circulate it only privately until he could feel certain that in relating it he would not receive again the general ridicule of friends. (Allen, p. 30, 34)
- Violates Wikipedia: Citing sources off-site— There is either no citation to support the statement or the citation given is incorrect.
Violated by John "Foxe" —Diff: off-site There are contemporary sources that are not written by Joseph himself that mention persecution. What the wiki editor is really saying is that there is no non-believer who confirms such persecution. One would wonder why any non-believer would find such persecution notable.
- 1845 Wandle Mace Autobiography, typescript, BYU Special Collections, 45-6 [File Diary Wandle Mace] [dictated to his wife, ends with departure from Nauvoo, 1846] [Born Feb. 19, 1809]
Almost as soon as the father [Joseph Smith, Sr.] and mother [Lucy Smith] of the Prophet Joseph Smith set their feet upon the hospitable shore of Illinois, I became acquainted with them. I frequently visited them and listened with intense interest as they related the history of the rise of the Church in every detail.
With tears they could not withhold, they narrated the story of the persecution of their boy, Joseph, which commenced when he was about fourteen years old, or from the time the angel first visited him. Not only was the boy, Joseph, persecuted but the aged father was harassed and imprisoned on false charges. (emphasis added)
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None of the earliest anti-Mormon literature mentioned the First Vision.
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- James B. Allen, “The Significance of Joseph Smith's First Vision in Mormon Thought,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, 1 (Autumn 1966), 31. [3]. "Apparently not until 1843, when the New York Spectator printed a reporter's account of an interview with Joseph Smith, did a non-Mormon source publish any reference to the story of the first vision."
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Interesting that the statement says "anti-Mormon" rather than "non-Mormon" literature. The statement may be formulated that way because there actually were some possible references in local newspapers.
- LDS missionaries were teaching with regard to Joseph Smith: "Having repented of his sins, but not attached himself to any party of Christians, owing to the numerous divisions among them, and being in doubt what his duty was, he had recourse [to] prayer" (The Fredonia Censor, vol. 11, no. 50, 7 March 1832).
- In Richard Abanes' anti-Mormon book Becoming Gods, p. 338 note 71, the author states:
It should be noted that in one 1831 newspaper article about the activities of LDS missionaries (i.e., Oliver Cowdery and three others) there is a vague reference to Smith seeing God. The journalist wrote, "Smith (they affirmed) had seen God frequently and personally" ("God bible No. 4: Book of Mormon," Palmyra Reflector, Feb. 14, 1831). This remark indicates that as early as 1831 Smith might have been starting to privately tell select persons that he had at some point seen God. (emphasis in original)
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Smith also said he told others about the vision during the 1820s, and some family members said that they had heard him mention it, but none prior to 1823, when Smith said he had his second vision.
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- Violates Wikipedia: Citing sources off-site— There is either no citation to support the statement or the citation given is incorrect.
Violated by John "Foxe" —Diff: off-site
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